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What is the biggest and baddest Large Frame Bolens? 1886? HT-20? HT-23?


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#1 BolensFanatic1988 OFFLINE  

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Posted December 30, 2020 - 06:18 PM

I just want to hear all your opinions on what you think is the biggest and baddest LF Bolens. Is it the 1886? The HT-20? Or HT-23? For me it’s the 1886. But other people have told me different. I know all 3 are pretty similar but just don’t know enough to really judge. Any differences between the 3 would be nice to know. Tell me what you think? What’s your opinion on the biggest and baddest Bolens? I know I’m not the only one that has thought about this lol. Have fun guys

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Posted December 30, 2020 - 06:48 PM

You'll get different opinions for various reasons, & they'll all be valid. It really comes down to what you're needing to do with it.
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Posted December 30, 2020 - 08:02 PM

You'll get different opinions for various reasons, & they'll all be valid. It really comes down to what you're needing to do with it.



Thx man, it’s true, really depends on what your doing. But if you had to pick 1 which would it be ? Lol
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Posted December 30, 2020 - 08:47 PM

In my case probably the ht23 of it was an "s" model. If I couldn't find one of those in good condition I'd get an 1886, preferably one of the last 2 years model, because I really like the styling of them. I have 3 HT20's & don't need anymore of those, but any of them would fit any of my needs in another tractor.
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Posted December 31, 2020 - 05:22 PM

The HT23 has a two stage transmission.

couple that with a diesel and, you’ve got the best large frame.

but their all good.

hydrostatic with forward and reverse by foot peddle is what makes them so good.

I still prefer the Jacobsen/Ford setup.

but, they are getting harder to find.

 

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Posted December 31, 2020 - 05:49 PM

The HT23 has a two stage transmission.
couple that with a diesel and, you’ve got the best large frame.
but their all good.
hydrostatic with forward and reverse by foot peddle is what makes them so good.
I still prefer the Jacobsen/Ford setup.
but, they are getting harder to find.
 
joe



Well so far the HT-23 is taking the lead lol. Thx for the input
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Posted December 31, 2020 - 06:58 PM

In my opinion the hdt1000 (export only) would of been the biggest and baddest for the reason of the 2 speed axle (ht23 platform) the 3 cylinder liquid cooled diesel and the huge hood (looks like a deere 430) however thought I only know of 4 of them
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Posted December 31, 2020 - 07:23 PM

I really like the HT-23s,but do have to say the HDT-1000 with that diesel is king
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Posted December 31, 2020 - 07:54 PM

So the HDT-1000 is a HT-23 chassis with a diesel, power steering, cruise control and hydraulic cooler ? Isn’t their a ht-23s model with all those same add ons as the HDT-1000 but with a gas engine instead of a diesel ?

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Posted December 31, 2020 - 09:24 PM

I think most would agree that any of the Bolens large frame models are a hoss. The later they got, the more advanced they became but the overall character or look IMO stayed true to the form. An early single cylinder large frame will have less hydraulic capabilities compared to the twin cylinder models which had more power. Large frames were offered in three different hydrostatic transmissions, some prefer one over the other which can also be a decision maker alone for them. I think in terms of overall beauty, the winner is the 1886 due to its more charming decals like the ones that wrap the sides & top on the hood front that are not shared with the other large frames. The 1886 was also kind of a revolutionary model like the original 1250 as it was the first large frame to receive the twin cylinder engine, more advanced hydraulic system and a longer frame & hood; a recipe that carried out to the end of the large frame run. You could say things really started to get going when the 1886 was introduced.

 

 

So the HDT-1000 is a HT-23 chassis with a diesel, power steering, cruise control and hydraulic cooler ? Isn’t their a ht-23s model with all those same add ons as the HDT-1000 but with a gas engine instead of a diesel ?

 

That is correct, but it depends on how it was optioned though. I have seen one HDT1000 that did not have power steering or cruise. The other large frames that had diesel engines were the HT20D and HT22 which had 2 cylinder Ducati/Wisconsin engines but they were not sold in big numbers like the gas models.

 

A good way to learn the specs on each model is to read the owners manuals & brochures and compare the differences between one another. https://gardentracto...s-large-frames/


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Posted December 31, 2020 - 09:32 PM

Yes from my knowledge they were a ht23 but with a 3 cylinder diesel how ever they were really rare 

I believe there is member on here that has one oldbuzzard  

 

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Posted December 31, 2020 - 10:06 PM

I was reading that the 3 cylinder diesel in the HDT-1000 is made by Mitsubishi. Haven’t heard to much on it so must be a good engine lol. It amazes me Bolens never made a 4x4 large frame. That would be insane
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Posted January 01, 2021 - 01:24 AM

 

I was reading that the 3 cylinder diesel in the HDT-1000 is made by Mitsubishi. Haven’t heard to much on it so must be a good engine lol.

Yes, they are nice engines and run very smoothly. The K3D was part of a larger engine family and not a proprietary engine for the HDT in particular, it was put in many machines of different manufactures including Bolens/Iseki sub compacts, FYI.

 

 

It amazes me Bolens never made a 4x4 large frame. That would be insane

 

I have always thought a 4x4 Bolens large frame would be pretty cool too and I have no doubts that if they were produced today, the feature would be standard. If you think about it though, at the time period that these were sold, the 4x4 feature for garden tractors (GT's) in general really didn't exist among most, if not all, GT manufactures. It was not a feature that you saw back then like you do on modern GT's today. I suppose if you really needed it back then, Bolens would've steered you into one of their Iseki sub compacts instead that would have had the feature. Bolens however was revolutionary on other things with the 1250 like the foot-controlled "Treadle Pedal" connected to an Eaton 12 hydrostatic transmission designed specifically for Bolens, both a first for a garden tractor. I will finish this comment with a bit of bias, however, I believe it and can say it since we're in the Bolens section of the forum. Compared to other GT's, Bolens was in a league of their own with the large frame and it is why so many enthusiasts of the brand covet them so much. A large frame is the definition of a "super garden tractor" due to its size and capabilities, but when you see one in person, you will quickly understand by the way it is constructed like a tank and the planted feel behind the wheel that it is not like any other garden tractor you've experienced.


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Posted January 01, 2021 - 09:56 AM

I know this may not be topic related, but this popped up in Wisconsin.  I have seen it on FB marketplace and also this CL link.  I am guessing there are many Large Frame guys loooking at this thread.  It seems like a decent deal.  

 

https://madison.crai...7254696836.html

 

 


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Posted January 01, 2021 - 02:18 PM

I know this may not be topic related, but this popped up in Wisconsin.  I have seen it on FB marketplace and also this CL link.  I am guessing there are many Large Frame guys loooking at this thread.  It seems like a decent deal.  
 
https://madison.crai...7254696836.html



That’s not bad at all! Properly priced compared to Canada. I found 2 ht-23 tractors on Kijiji and I feel like they are way overpriced.. but I could be wrong. Here’s the links

https://www.kijiji.c...03906?undefined


https://www.kijiji.c...plow/1540723505
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