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Posted June 29, 2020 - 09:00 PM

Mast Cylinder and control valve off and off to be rebuilt

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Posted June 29, 2020 - 09:05 PM

Nice post,really like the looks of the fronts, can't wait to see the rears on there
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Posted June 29, 2020 - 09:33 PM

Was something wrong/found that made you pull those? Or more of a preventative maintenance thing replacing/rebuilding 50ish year old rubber internals to "freshen them up" with new?
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Posted June 29, 2020 - 09:36 PM

Was something wrong/found that made you pull those? Or more of a preventative maintenance thing replacing/rebuilding 50ish year old rubber internals to "freshen them up" with new?

 Yup “ in for a penny...” Exactly my thinking 50 yrs time for new. It’s tore down and now was the time. 


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Posted June 29, 2020 - 09:53 PM

Yup “ in for a penny...” Exactly my thinking 50 yrs time for new. It’s tore down and now was the time.

Exactly, plus you can probably upgrade the lift ram with quad seals in lieu of a round o-ring, which I'm assuming is what was used in that, back in that era.
I've learned over the years that it's always time to replace the old stuff (even if it doesn't need it rite then) when you've already got things torn apart anyway. Yes it takes more time, but Murphy's law will always show it's ugly face at the most inopertune times if you don't "freshen things up." Good looking ahead 👍😁
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Posted July 09, 2020 - 09:41 AM

so now I have to show my ignorance again.... what are quad seals?

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Posted July 09, 2020 - 11:03 AM

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Posted July 11, 2020 - 09:01 AM

thanks

of course, now I've got the "I should have known that' thing going on... going to have to remember that for any 0-ring replacement projects 

thanks again


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Posted July 12, 2020 - 07:06 PM

Man that tractor looks so cool! Awesome work as always Kevin!
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Posted July 26, 2020 - 09:12 AM

Progress :
Lots of window time at the blast cabinet as Bolens paint adhesion wasn’t a problem for them. POR 15 the innards and Regal red the outers . I like the look of these better than the R4’s and their squared off shoulders and left wanting traction. I would of liked a straight up ag tire but they are not made in this size and finding four original period correct ones proved unobtainable. Replaced the missing flywheel screen with a new one and replaced what I believe were the original PTO belts , starter belt got new also (all from Bolens Parts and Supplies).
The muffler is shot so I sourced some 304 SS a baffle and some packing and am going to see what I can do about making a new one.
I didn’t want to tear this down completely ,I waffled back and forth with what to do with the tins, the whole unit had aged together and part of me said let it be but some of the decals have surrendered to Father Time and Mother Nature ,especially the fender pan wood look decal it was beat and it bugged me... Knowing I have a set from Sam’s that way way back I took measurements and pics for ( his current 1886 -01 decal set) and he took care of me with a prototype set as part of the deal , his center pan decal is the only one with the correct burl wood look , I had it , the forklift one was beat , a decision was made, so I powered buffed the paint out then stripped the product and X2 cleared the fender pan and added the decals. I’m going to do the same with the hood.

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Posted July 26, 2020 - 10:46 AM

Nice progress - see the dual treads are aligned nicely between the inner and outer wheel.  Looking forward to the muffler build results.


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Posted July 26, 2020 - 06:32 PM

Those Goodyear R14's really look good on there. Did you put liquid ballast in the tires as well, or just going w/the wheel weights (3 pair)?
I noticed the engines out, is that out for repairs/refresh as well?
Did that come w/duals on it?, I can't remember. I would think that should be an automatic w/that forklift attachment for the added stability, but I haven't seen to many of those to know if they all had duals or not.
Wondering if there's really another application that duals actually helped with. 🤔
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Posted July 26, 2020 - 07:04 PM

Nice progress - see the dual treads are aligned nicely between the inner and outer wheel. Looking forward to the muffler build results.

Thanks Stew, I actually mounted the outer one to the unit before I aired it up and tweaked it to match.

Those Goodyear R14's really look good on there. Did you put liquid ballast in the tires as well, or just going w/the wheel weights (3 pair)?
I noticed the engines out, is that out for repairs/refresh as well?
Did that come w/duals on it?, I can't remember. I would think that should be an automatic w/that forklift attachment for the added stability, but I haven't seen to many of those to know if they all had duals or not.
Wondering if there's really another application that duals actually helped with.

Thanks Ken. Yes mounted up I am more pleased with the choice , as you know sourcing a traction tire in this size leaves you heading over to a truck mud tire to get something other than a turf or R4. I’m not sure if these were out yet when you were looking. So far they have good reviews, they are 8 ply which is a bit overkill but all that’s available, as I mentioned I like the rounded shoulder on these way better than the R4 profile.
I believe I’m going to put the rear weights to it but only two sets, I have a 10” set I’m debating for the fronts I’ll probably blast and paint them and mount em just to see the look. No liquid ballast but good eye on the larger two piece valve stems, these 15” take the larger diameter stem base and these were on hand.
The engine is still in there, you’re used to seeing the big Kohler twins up front. The gas tank/battery bracket was removed for easier access to the PTO belts plus I had to pull the sheave off the engine to get the flywheel screen on, muffler is off as well thus the something missing look. The engine runs great, nice burn on the plug, fires right up I mean like a couple revolutions, I’ve fought and cussed some Wisconsin engines but this one has made me a believer.
I put the duals on it , they were purchased from Dave South when he was downsizing , he put a set of R4’s on them to match up what was on one set, he ran them on one of his 1250’s with the sickle mo, the R4’s are like new.
Unfortunately the hydraulics of the forklift attachment show the age and the use of a system without a filter and most likely limited fluid changes , I wanted to stay original so that became a greater than anticipated investment, next up date I will go into details.

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Posted July 27, 2020 - 12:09 PM

Nice improvements, I really like the red, it will set the machine off. Looking forward to following the muffler build!


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Posted August 23, 2020 - 07:28 PM

Getting closer to completion as the mast cylinder and control valve came back from the hydraulic shop. The piston in the mast cylinder had to be re-chromed and the valve body had to be honed and new bosses installed , there went the budget :( ... did some small but needed maintenance, new battery cables, new fuel lines , spark plug wire and was going to change the fuel bowl but it cleaned up nice so I put a new screen and gasket on it and called it good. Finished installing the rear motor mounts ( what started this project anyways ) Like the looks of the blind rivets that hold the head light retainers, had NOS ones so I replaced the machine screws with them and added new push on nuts , a PITA undertaking but I deemed worth it.
Decided to go with the new Parker pump as no word on the Cessna as of post time. Needed to change suction line to 5/8” in order to get a hose barb fitting in a # 10, new supply and return line to valve as well.
Found a nice NOS steel pulley with a 1/2” bore but had to weld on a hub extension because the Parker shaft is a 1/2” shorter also needed to broach a key way.
Thought it needed a light for all the night time loading and unloading ( which to date has been nada but ...) so you can see to maneuver , the tail light wasn’t going to cut it 😆. Found an old school Peterson work light made a swing away mounting bracket , bent a piece of 3/8” bar stock ran some threads and mounted it up. an oversized cast 3/8” wing nut to control the tilt completed the project. Installed an NOS taillight existing no workie.
Buffed our what’s left of the tins paint , cleared them , added new decals and called it as good as it’ll get. Added new foot pads cause I was to lazy to scrape the glue off the old.
Opened up the bend on the hand brake attachment so you can actually reach it , added an retro grip.
Still to do list: New battery , hydro hoses from control valve to the hard lines and hopefully I can get after the muffler this week , wheel weights blasted, primed and painted but the duals look so good I’m not sure I want to cover them up.

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