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#46 JohnWR OFFLINE  

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Posted May 22, 2020 - 03:37 AM

While you have it apart, you might take a close inspection of the pivot points which have been known to crack before on these. Below is a picture of a broken one for reference.

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I knew to check there from reading Steveo’s thread on mtf 100 times over the years. Mine where totally broken. I welded in new bushing with a 1” od
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Posted May 22, 2020 - 05:37 PM

Made some more progress, need to start fixing the bucket this week.


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Posted May 22, 2020 - 05:42 PM

What Yellow are you using? Looks good!


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Posted May 22, 2020 - 06:03 PM

That's coming along nicely. You're making quick work of it. I'm enjoying following along with the progress, thanks for sharing.
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Posted May 22, 2020 - 06:54 PM

What Yellow are you using? Looks good!


It’s caterpillar yellow in spray can forum. It’s just looked terrible 50 shades of green lol.

That's coming along nicely. You're making quick work of it. I'm enjoying following along with the progress, thanks for sharing.


Thanks I appreciate it, figure it would help motivate others if they see a loader in disrepair to take a shot at saving it.
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Posted May 22, 2020 - 07:15 PM

Getting exciting!


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Posted May 22, 2020 - 07:52 PM

Nice progress. I just went through a full restoration on a HT with a quick-way loader. It’s very satisfying to see work multicolored broken things look and act like new again. Keep plugging away and you will have a nice machine that’s a blast to use
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Posted May 22, 2020 - 08:44 PM

Getting exciting!


Thanks I can’t wait till I can plumb the hydraulics and see it move.

Nice progress. I just went through a full restoration on a HT with a quick-way loader. It’s very satisfying to see work multicolored broken things look and act like new again. Keep plugging away and you will have a nice machine that’s a blast to use


This isn’t that nice of a job, it took a lot the work and I have the loader frame totally square and level but the actual boom arm has about a 1” twist that I couldn’t get to straighten out. I may have to have this reproduced down the line locally. I watched your thread very closely. This loader was only half bolted on and with all the broken bushings god know how hard it was abused. I’m going to have to do new cylinders down the road as well. I’m going with new seals they will last a year or so.
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Posted May 22, 2020 - 08:59 PM

I wanted to just reseal the two lift cylinders until I found both rods were too far gone and needed rechromed. Just wasn’t worth double the money to have original cylinders so I just purchased new. I was fortunate in that my loader was in pretty good condition with minor wear. Most of my work was getting the old paint off and cleaned up for fresh paint.
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Posted May 22, 2020 - 09:18 PM

I wanted to just reseal the two lift cylinders until I found both rods were too far gone and needed rechromed. Just wasn’t worth double the money to have original cylinders so I just purchased new. I was fortunate in that my loader was in pretty good condition with minor wear. Most of my work was getting the old paint off and cleaned up for fresh paint.


These need new shafts made for them and it’s not worth it. The place you got your cylinders from has something close but the stroke is 2” longer and I’m not sure how that will effect the dumping action. The current dump cylinders are long but have only a 6” stroke. The closest replacement size have an 8” stroke.
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Posted May 22, 2020 - 10:00 PM

Either of the two sets of cylinders I used are EXACT in their stroke. I made sure the closed length was correct first off. On the curl cylinders the stroke was 2 inches longer than the originals but it didn’t interfere with the way it worked. It just dumps farther. On the lift cylinders the stroke was actually two inches shorter with the closed length exact. I did some calculations and comparisons with a bunch of other loaders in the same category. Even with the shorter extended length it still lifted the bucket to 72 inches which is industry average. I didn’t mind it not lifting any higher but thought if they were overall shorter it may have not go down as far as needed. It was a compromise but in the end works great. With tang end cylinders it is very hard to find exact cylinders that these old loaders had. Lots of research and calculations but it can be done with new cylinders. Good luck !!!

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Posted May 23, 2020 - 05:27 AM

These need new shafts made for them and it’s not worth it. The place you got your cylinders from has something close but the stroke is 2” longer and I’m not sure how that will effect the dumping action. The current dump cylinders are long but have only a 6” stroke. The closest replacement size have an 8” stroke.

Maybe you could install a limiter inside for the extra stroke. Something like this:

 

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Posted May 25, 2020 - 03:35 PM

Made some more progress today. This bucket is trash I’m just fixing it enough to get by till I can find someone to make another. It had 2 large cracks in it that I ground out and welded and plug welded all the pin holes up. I also cut off the extension someone made.

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Posted May 26, 2020 - 09:29 PM

A little more progress, my pump and first surplus center order showed up today. I regret ordering this coupler and re ordered a shorter one this one is 3 1/2” overall length and the new one is just under 2.5” over all length. I made a bracket for my return filter and installed my valve. I also got the bucket in a coat of rust converter so tomorrow and I can just shoot it gloss black.

I also made my biggest tire purchase for a tractor ever. 26x12-12 Firestone 23 degree ags and 6 ply V61 tires for the front with new rims as mine are roached. They should be here Monday.8C4EFA85-D785-4064-BB68-64190F46C04A.jpeg
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I can’t get the pictures to post right tonight sorry.
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Posted May 26, 2020 - 09:35 PM

You sure are moving rite along on this project, nice work. You sure didn't skimp on tire choice either, very nice tire selection you made.




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