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#31 JohnWR OFFLINE  

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Posted May 14, 2020 - 07:34 PM

Put the ht back together today all new bushing in the steering gear and bottom on the shaft. Adjusted the axle stops and moved my heavy hitch over.

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Posted May 14, 2020 - 07:54 PM

I'll bet driveability has improved!


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Posted May 14, 2020 - 07:57 PM

Gonna be a great workhorse 👍
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Posted May 14, 2020 - 08:05 PM

I'll bet driveability has improved!

Very much so it used to pop when turning the wheel

 

Gonna be a great workhorse

 

Thanks it's shaping up to be a great machine now i need to really get working on the loader.

 


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Posted May 15, 2020 - 08:05 AM

Check out my post about the kwik way loader on the HT24  It shows yet another way to mount the pump.  very simple setup with a piece of angle iron and a driveshaft.  Puts the pump right under the foot-pedal area.  Plus eliminates the axle pivot issue with the side to side of the pto shaft.  Just another idea


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Posted May 15, 2020 - 04:07 PM

Check out my post about the kwik way loader on the HT24 It shows yet another way to mount the pump. very simple setup with a piece of angle iron and a driveshaft. Puts the pump right under the foot-pedal area. Plus eliminates the axle pivot issue with the side to side of the pto shaft. Just another idea


I was actually looking at your pictures today, The pumps going underneath regardless. Kevin said he might have one more bracket left so I’m just waiting to hear from him. If not I saw that place you got your cylinders from has pumps with a 3/4” shaft that means I could use a tube frame mower deck shaft and just cut it down for size.
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Posted May 15, 2020 - 04:14 PM

Made some progress fixed more holes, And verified the bucket still fits before I finished welding.

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Posted May 15, 2020 - 05:20 PM

If you go with the mount out front like on Austen’s HDT on yours you have to have the correct rotation on your pump. I want to say in this configuration it’s CCW but not positive, so if you already have a pump , orientation to its original set up is paramount for operation , If not then chose ones who’s rotation match’s your installation ( I know Mr Obvious right). Maybe Austen will chime in with what his gpm is.
The mounts I have are for “Lovejoy” connection and are spaced off the axle accordingly. However I’m sure I can fab another , leave the mounting angle ears loose and you can mock it up , clamp and weld. If you chose a chain coupler as Austen’s Fabricator did then I’m sure Austen will get you measurements for the asking.
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Posted May 15, 2020 - 06:39 PM

For my pump I purchased it from Norther Hydraulics. They had the best price+shipping. Plus Magister didn’t have the exact specs for a pump that I was looking for. If you mount the pump behind the axle like mine you need a clockwise pump but if it’s up front of axle such as Austen’s you need a counter clock wise pump. I just purchased a new yoke (mine was a neapco). Most of those pumps are 5/8 shafts.
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Posted May 15, 2020 - 06:45 PM

Do you still have your old pump? If you do just pull the pulley off and get a yoke for it My shaft is actually round stock between the two yoke assy. The pump gets mounted solid so there is no need for it to slide in and out
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Posted May 15, 2020 - 07:46 PM

The pump was long gone someone rigged up what looks like a power steering pump but it’s long shot. I would prefer In front of the axle so I could use rear attachments still. Magister has a 3/4” shaft pump that’s 5.28 gallons a minuet that’s slightly more then the original Cessna pump and will be more then sufficient.
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Posted May 15, 2020 - 07:49 PM

Here's the pump that is on mine for reference. https://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraulics/Hydraulic-Pumps/Gear-Pumps/0-48-cu-in-Dynamic-GPF2008PA-Hydraulic-Pump-9-7788-D.axd

 

0.48 cu in DYNAMIC GPF2008PA HYD PUMP
Brand new, DYNAMIC GP-F20 series hydraulic gear pump. Aluminum center section with cast iron end covers.

SPECIFICATIONS

  • Disp. 0.48 cu. in. / rev.
  • Pump Type Gear
  • Rotation CCW
  • Pressure:
      3650 PSI peak
  • Speed:
      2000 RPM rated
      3600 RPM max.
  • Flow:
      3.87 GPM rated
      6.96 GPM max.
  • Mount 2 bolt SAE A
  • Shaft 5/8" dia. x 1-1/4" long keyed with 5/32" wide keyway
  • Rqd. Filtration 25 micron
  • Inlet Port SAE 12
  • Outlet Port SAE 10
  • Size 4" x 5-1/8" x 4-1/2"
  • Shpg. 10 lbs.

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Posted May 21, 2020 - 08:54 PM

Made more progress today, I cut the butchered and pop corn welded pump bracket off. I made my own bracket as I didn’t want to loose that cross support. Every pin hole is ovesized. Now and there should no almost no slop in this. The loader arm has a twist to it, I tried to straighten it in our 40 ton press and it’s just to far out of square it’s better but not perfect. My pump should be here tomorrow and my order from surplus center finally shipped today. Tomorrow I’m gonna try and get some color on it so I can start on the bucket.

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Posted May 21, 2020 - 09:11 PM

Thanks for the updates. Nice progress.

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Posted May 21, 2020 - 10:28 PM

While you have it apart, you might take a close inspection of the pivot points which have been known to crack before on these. Below is a picture of a broken one for reference.

 

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