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#1 stiemmy OFFLINE  

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Posted November 25, 2016 - 01:07 PM

I was out bumming around with my friends, and happend to stumble onto this Ford yesterday. It has 75.x hours, and looks absolutely beautiful, and I mean beautiful!! It has not been restored, or repainted, but needs a wash, and I about fell over when I found out it's for sale, complete with drool all over my shirt.

Well, just so happens my buddy just bought a farm house with 3-4 acres of land, and needs a rough cut mower, and possibly a tiller!
Get where Im going with this??

It does not include any attachments,
I know engine, and drivetrain parts are a pita to obtain, and are VERY pricy, but with that little of hours, she should run a long time.

Looks to be a 27hp 3 cyl. Shibura engine with 23hp on tap @ the Pto, and 3 speed trans with 3 ranges, 4x4, ROPS, 3 point, and power steering. The seller says it runs great, and heck, the tires look new.

The seller wants 8000 for it, which I think isn't too bad, and I'm pretty sure I could get him down to 7500, maybe, maybe less??

Now, my buddy would like to add a loader which Im sure would add another 2000, and a rough cut mower, say 750 give or take, so total cost would be about half of a new Bota + tax.

Now, keep in mind he just bought that house, so a new Bota AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN, but thought I'd see what you folks think about it. I know if I had the spare green George Washington's, I'd been home already!! So what ya think, good, bad, or otherwise?? Couple pics folks

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Posted November 25, 2016 - 01:49 PM

I own that tractor's predecessor.  Model 1700. 

Fantastic little utility tractors.


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Posted November 25, 2016 - 02:39 PM

Clean looking unit!


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Posted November 25, 2016 - 03:05 PM

Where's the hydraulic outlets?


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Posted November 25, 2016 - 03:49 PM

Where's the hydraulic outlets?

Good catch!!

To be honest, I never looked, and the photos aren't clear enough to render if they are present or not, and can't say for certain. I guess if we go back, Ill have to look 4 them. I did see what appeared to be the front lines tho. It was starting to get dark, so time spent looking at it was very short.

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Posted November 25, 2016 - 05:10 PM

    Great little tractor!!!  nice size so it will be easy to move around on a standard car trailer, parts aren't to bad if you know where to look.  looks super clean and if the hours are correct then you should be good to go.  only thing I can say is the price seems a bit Hi for no attachments, cond makes it worth a bit more but still think the price is HI.  for that kind of cash you can get allot of tractor and attachments.

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Posted November 25, 2016 - 05:22 PM

Neighbor has a 1720 with a loader on it.It has well over 4200 hours on it and still runs decent.Hour meter quit working years ago but shows 4200 and change on it.Shibaura 3 cylinder diesel.

 

It's going to need the injectors rebuilt or replaced soon as it's smoking white.Injectors are leaking a bit Might just be the O rings.White smoke is usually a sign of overfueling.Middle injector seems to be the worst one.

 

It just had the dual disk clutch replaced,Remanned pressure plate and resurfaced flywheel and bearing.Clutch parts are pretty salty.He has around $1400 in the clutch rebuild.Front tires are an oddball sized tire.They run from 500-600 for the set if you can find them.

 

The steering drag link is a bit on the light side for how heavy the tractor is with a loader on it.It's a pretty thin walled pipe with 2 ball joints on either side.Neighbors drag link folded up on him with around 800lbs of old engine blocks in the bucket when trying to back up in soft soil.He ended up getting some heavier wall pipe and made up a new drag link and replaced both ball joints with a set that was a bit heavier.

 

Other than that it starts super easy and seems to have plenty of power.

 

Oh Do NOT use Fram Hydraulic filters lol.Both filters on my neighbors collapsed internally and clogged up.He lost all hydraulics but the power steering.Luckily he asked me to have a look at it before he pulled the pump off the engine and had it sent in to have it rebuilt.I pulled the hard return line and noticed that only a dribble cam out.I pulled one filter off and it was full of fluid but again only a slow dribble of fluid came out of it.Fluid was full and clean.Filters and fluid only had around 8 hours of run time on them.Luckily it didn't hurt the pump.Installed 2 new Fleetguard Hydraulic filters and it bled it's self out pretty quick with a couple tugs on the loader stick and it was good to go.

 

Don't know what the GPM is on the pump but the loader is pretty fast and has really good lifting capacity for the size of the loader.

 

Transmission is a bit different in the 1720.It's Shuttle shift 12 speed forward 4 reverse where the 1715 is 8 forward 3 reverse.And 1 whopping hp difference between the Shibaura 1.5L in the 1720 and Shibaura 1.3L in the 1715.According to tractordata.


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Posted November 25, 2016 - 06:05 PM

Will this loader fit? http://newlondon.cra...5868579150.html
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Posted November 25, 2016 - 07:12 PM

Great little tractor!!! nice size so it will be easy to move around on a standard car trailer, parts aren't to bad if you know where to look. looks super clean and if the hours are correct then you should be good to go. only thing I can say is the price seems a bit Hi for no attachments, cond makes it worth a bit more but still think the price is HI. for that kind of cash you can get allot of tractor and attachments.
Pete

I have been on a tractor value estimator site, and 7,xxx is what it showed for middle value. Im not saying it's correct, but the same priced tractor round here is going to easily be 20 or 30 times the amount of hours that I have seen in this area, and very well used, or downright abused. Then again, I'm no expert thats why I'm asking;)

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Posted November 25, 2016 - 07:14 PM

Will this loader fit? http://newlondon.cra...5868579150.html


Looks good, too far away.

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Posted November 25, 2016 - 07:33 PM

Another local example.

Ford 1720 57x hours, 13,500

https://wausau.craig...5882579918.html

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Posted November 25, 2016 - 10:12 PM

Another local example.

Ford 1720 57x hours, 13,500

https://wausau.craig...5882579918.html

Enough said.



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Posted November 27, 2016 - 10:13 AM

Nice looking tractor, If I had the money I'd jump on it, it's hard to buy a new tractor for 8,000






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