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[bowtiebutler956]

Wow, finding a 9fb is proving a little tougher than I thought Brian, I've found two 14's, and a 23, but not a 9. They used the 14's in the 5000s, and the 23s in the 8000s.

Matt

[bowtiebutler956]

I found this pic in Darey Shaffers Bantam collection Brian, and I thought you might like it. This is a Bantam jr. with a 1 1/2 hp Briggs. The engine plate humps up on frame just like yours, and I think the clutch may be similar.

Matt

[MH81]

Matt, thanks for the pic, that's a beautiful little guy. (I know it's not yours, but a fella can dream, can't he? LOL)

Brian, how goes the engine search? Any luck?

[Texas Deere and Horse]

Brian, how goes the engine search? Any luck?

Not yet Alan, I have a Briggs 5S that I can use, but it won't be right and this little guy needs to be done the best I can.

[MH81]

Would a 6b-HS be closer?

[Texas Deere and Horse]

Would a 6b-HS be closer?

Alan, I don't know enough about those older Briggs to say yes or no. I would have to look at it next to the engine I need.

[bowtiebutler956]

Brian, I really do think yours takes a Briggs model N, and not the 9fb. When you get a chance, go measure the bolt hole spacing on your engine plate. I believe the N has a smaller bolt pattern than a 9FB, but I could be wrong. My bolt pattern on my 9FB is roughly 6x10. In all the pics I've seen of Bantams, I've never seen a 9FB mounted on a raised mounting plate like yours. There are a couple yahoo Bantam groups out there with awesome photo galleries. One is the bantamgardentractorclub. It has an outstanding photo section with probabally 100 different Bantams. The other is bantamgardentractors, and it was started by Daryel Shaffer. It is not as old as the first one but it still has some good pics. Does your Standard still have its serial plate with it? My Standards no. is 952378. 9 is for 9FB, 52 is for 1952, and 378 is for the 378th model made that year. If it is a Briggs N, they are much easier to find. They are on ebay very regularly.

Matt

[Texas Deere and Horse]

Thanks Matt, I don't have a ID tag, but Daryel told me what it should have. He could be wrong.

[bowtiebutler956]

The mounting bolt spacing on a 9FB is 5 3/4w x 10L An Briggs N is 3 1/8w x 6 3/8L Both those measures are rough, but within 1/8 of correct. So if you check your bolt spacing, this should give you a good idea. Here are pics of my 9FB oil pan, and a Briggs N pan. If you look closley at your mounting plate, you can actually still see the outline of the oil pan in it.

Matt

Briggs Model N

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[Texas Deere and Horse]

Thanks Matt, I will try to get some measurements tomorrow, if I can remember it.

[cookiemonster]

This is great stuff. I'd love to get a cheap find on a bantam someday.

[Texas Deere and Horse]

Matt Said;

The mounting bolt spacing on a 9FB is 5 3/4w x 10L An Briggs N is 3 1/8w x 6 3/8L

Matt, Mine had a "N" series Briggs on it. It is drilled 3 1/8" X 6 3/8".. You are correct, Thanks..

[Texas Deere and Horse]

Here is a couple photos of the engine I have now.

[bowtiebutler956]

That engine would work to get it going, but I just bought a couple model n's off ebay. One is just for parts as it is missing alot of parts, however the other looks pretty complete. They haven't arrived yet, so I don't know how good or bad they will be. I bought them because I really like fixing up old engines,and they were cheap. If I can get one in good running order without spending much, then you can have it, when I'm done playing with it. Anything I can do to help get that very unique little Standard up and going again would be a priviledge.

Matt

Edited by bowtiebutler956, June 28, 2012 - 04:17 PM.