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#1 dodge trucker OFFLINE  

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Posted January 27, 2013 - 06:35 PM

I have wanted some kind of heater in my attached garage (demoted to glorified storage" since building my detached one)   because the adjoining rooms are usually cold as though the rest of the house is heated, (of course) and at least in my attic, well insulated. Why they would insulate the whole house except the unheated part is beyond me.  2 winters ago, I tore the drywall out insulated heavily and sheathed everything incl the ceiling with OSB/ as well as "catching up" the ceiling with the rest of the house insulation wise,  and putting a  subfloor just over the garage part of the attic, 
It helped  but not completely, that unheated space still robs the heat from the house. When I used to work out there, I had a few different portable heaters over the years and  I found out "heat the garage, keep the rest of the house warmer"
This past summer I found a 10K BTU ventless heater cheap at a garage sale.  Mind you, the idea wasn't to make the garage "shirt sleeve" comfortable, but just to take the edge off, to help the rest of the house retain its heat; so i figured this should at least do that; nope.

The flame did not extend beyond the burner, barely made the burner itself glow blue.
I took the cover off and cleaned the burner and took the supply line off, blew it out too. Same result.

This ventless heater has 2 gas ports ; you use whichever one is appropriate for whatever gas (NG or LP) you plumb to it. The PO had the fitting in the NG side, which is what I run.(OK there)

I gave up and bought a new ventless heater today. my garage sale one did not come with the instructions, the new one did.  The new one is same brand but I got the 30K version because they had them on a helluva sale, got the 30K for the same price as the 10K usually sells for...

I put the new one in, and saw in the instructions where you gotta take off an access plate to flip a switch to which ever gas you are running, in addition to using only the inlet port marked likewise...
Well, the sheet said that they come shipped ready to run propane; I had to pull the access cover,  and flip it to NG on the new heater... could it be? 

Yup, I plumbed NG to the garage sale heater, in the NG port/ but the flip valve (that I didn't know existed) under the access plate, was on LP...

I knew that the  garage sale heater seemed unusually weak looking at the flame; especially knowing people that have these heaters and seeing how theirs burn (height of flame etc) but didn't know that  there was a valve to switch... The new heater is 30K BTU, vs the  garage sale one's 10K BTU;  10K is a little "light" for the square footage of the attached garage,  but had I known this I think it would have taken the edge off the cold out there,  which is all I was after... $120 for a new heater I didn't need to buy

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Posted January 27, 2013 - 06:42 PM

Return it. Carefully put it back in the box with everything and return it. But first copy the instructions. Unfortunately education can be expensive. BTW that wasn't stupid it was just not informed.

Edited by boyscout862, January 27, 2013 - 06:46 PM.

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Posted January 27, 2013 - 06:59 PM

Its not stupid it is a learning lesson. You will always remember.

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Posted January 27, 2013 - 07:02 PM

Tell em' ya like it but the wife don't want it with the kids around. Get your money!

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Posted January 27, 2013 - 07:23 PM

Sometimes we find things out the hard way! Take the new one back and use the cheap one. 





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Posted January 27, 2013 - 07:32 PM

Don't feel bad about it, we all have done this kind of thing wether we want to admit it or not.


Had you got as far as getting the new one at least partically install or just looking over the directions.



Edited by JRJ, January 28, 2013 - 05:59 PM.

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Posted January 27, 2013 - 08:10 PM

naaa she still wants to keep the bigger heater  (she's "always cold") and says to keep the smaller one for something else down the road

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Posted January 27, 2013 - 08:28 PM

Is this like asking for directions?   :reading_the_manual:   :rolling:

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Posted January 27, 2013 - 08:33 PM

Don't feel too bad, how would you know without the instructions.  Sometimes you can find manuals on line, but garage sale finds are usually a blind pick.  You weren't familiar with that heater.  I hope the new one really heats that garage for you.  Good luck with it.

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Posted January 27, 2013 - 08:46 PM

I've trained myself to view these types of expenses as "TUITION" on the road to higher education. :thumbs:  I don't have enough credits in any one degree (i.e. tractors, household appliances, cars, etc.) but I have a few minors. BTW, all this time I thought we were told that size doesn't matter. Hmmmmmmm.....might this bust that myth?


Thanks for sharing.

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Posted January 27, 2013 - 08:54 PM

Been there and done that, More then once. If you her happy, everyone will feel warm and cozy. :D

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Posted January 27, 2013 - 09:49 PM

Just a learning lesson . That is how we learn things and get smarter. 



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Posted January 27, 2013 - 10:04 PM

Do not feel bad. When you have no instructions it made it almost impossible. The good news is you have two heaters that both work. I would keep the new one as you bought it right and use the garage sale one as back up.



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Keep warm!

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Posted January 27, 2013 - 10:43 PM

Sometimes things work out for the best.. You now have a heater that should easily heat a 2 car garage and a warranty if you should need it. Sounds like a win win situation to me.


Getting some heat in a garage in the $100 range sounds pretty reasonable to me. I ran one of those little units in an old well house to keep the pipes from freezing one year it really was fairly efficient.

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Posted January 27, 2013 - 11:48 PM

You were simply ignorant.  Ignorance is curable, Stupidity is not.  Best of luck whatever you do.

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