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#1 jdcrawler OFFLINE  

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Posted December 03, 2011 - 05:23 PM

The rear frame ends are closed off with a piece of 1/2 inch thick plate steel.

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Using some of the angle iron left over from the horse trailer, I started making up the battery box.

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Here's the finished battery box.

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It is then bolted in place in between the rear frame rails.

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Here is how the battery looks when setting in the box.
The trailer hitch is a cast iron bracket that has been laying around for a very long time.
I think it was an old motor mount.
The bracket under the trailer hitch is for the clevis coupler on the two wheel cart that we use at the tractor shows.

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The dash box on the R/T tractor is mounted down in front of the seat.
It has worked out well mounted in that position so I decided to also mount the dash box in front of the seat on this tractor.

Starting to lay out the dash box.

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Bending the sides up to form the box.

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The end is welded on the box and it is all sanded down and primed.
I installed the key switch and the volt meter and mounted the dash box on the tractor.

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Posted December 03, 2011 - 05:35 PM

Awesome work Ray. I do have a question now.

What is the mounting plan for the battery tie down?
J bolts to holes in the frame rails with angle iron on top of the battery?
Or are you going more sophisticated?

Also, how will you protect the wiring to the dash box?
Will you be using harness covering or put the wires in conduit?
Or are you taking the wires under the floorboard?

Also, I like that ball hitch setup.
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Posted December 03, 2011 - 05:38 PM

Nice!!!! Great spot for the battery! Love the dash console, that's really nice.
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Posted December 03, 2011 - 05:58 PM

I do have a question now.

What is the mounting plan for the battery tie down?
J bolts to holes in the frame rails with angle iron on top of the battery?
Or are you going more sophisticated?

Also, how will you protect the wiring to the dash box?
Will you be using harness covering or put the wires in conduit?
Or are you taking the wires under the floorboard?

Casey

Question #1 ....
I wasn't planning on putting any tie down on the battery.
The box is 3 inch deep so I don't figure the battery is ever going to bounce out of it.


Question #2 ....
All of the above.
The wires will be in a harness going up to the box itself.
I'm using a plastic conduit along side the frame rail to run the wires up to the front.
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Posted December 03, 2011 - 06:35 PM

Thanks for the answers Ray. On the battery tie down plan, I think you should have something because you plan to haul it around to shows. A bouncing truck/trailer ride can cause problems on old tractors. I had to swap a carb out on one of my tractors because the float needle would work its way lose on a 5 mile trip so much that the tractor wouldn't start once I got to the show! On another tractor the rear wheel bolts on one side had worked lose and almost had the wheel fall off on me! I suggest that you work to secure all components on the tractor because I find it is better to have too many tie downs than one less part of the tractor.

That battery could bounce around so much it develops a crack and breaks open too. We all know battery acid is corrosive.
Every tractor I have hauled the battery has moved to some degree.
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Posted December 03, 2011 - 07:32 PM

Thanks for the answers Ray. On the battery tie down plan, I think you should have something because you plan to haul it around to shows. A bouncing truck/trailer ride can cause problems on old tractors. I had to swap a carb out on one of my tractors because the float needle would work its way lose on a 5 mile trip so much that the tractor wouldn't start once I got to the show! On another tractor the rear wheel bolts on one side had worked lose and almost had the wheel fall off on me! I suggest that you work to secure all components on the tractor because I find it is better to have too many tie downs than one less part of the tractor.

That battery could bounce around so much it develops a crack and breaks open too. We all know battery acid is corrosive.
Every tractor I have hauled the battery has moved to some degree.


I agree when I haul my tiller around I have to turn the fuel off so it doesn't flood the motor.
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Posted December 03, 2011 - 08:05 PM

Ray, I am by no means in your league build wise, but if I may make a suggestion regarding the battery.

That looks like a convenient place to step when getting on or off the tractor. If that's the case, a little more of that square tread plate and you could make a combination step, tiedown, and battery protector all in one. Cutout plenty for the posts and make 4 sided "cubes" to protect the terminals and wires.
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Posted December 03, 2011 - 08:47 PM

Thanks for the fantastic pictures and info Ray. I am certainly no expert but I must agree with the other posts about bouncing around on a trailer. If you were only to run it at the house or shows I'm sure it would be fine. It's the trip to and from.
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Posted December 03, 2011 - 10:15 PM

You guys are absolutely right about the problem of things bouncing around on the trailer.
I hadn't even thought about that.

The batteries are all fastened down on all my other tractors and I haven't had any problems hauling them to shows.
Thank you all for keeping me straight on this, I'll get a tie down strap made up.

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Posted December 03, 2011 - 10:23 PM

No problem Ray, that's why we ask the questions and explain the reasoning, to save you time and money in repairs later. Thanks for sharing your build with us all.
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Posted December 04, 2011 - 09:13 AM

Looking good, as usual Ray, keep up the good work!!
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Posted December 04, 2011 - 01:30 PM

The voltage regulator is mounted on the seat bracket.
I made a clamp out of a piece of stainless angle to hold the battery down.

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Posted December 04, 2011 - 03:15 PM

Very nicely done Ray, glad you got it all secured.
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Posted December 06, 2011 - 05:24 AM

Ray ,the dash,battery box,and hold down turned out great.
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Posted December 06, 2011 - 11:18 AM

Always a pleasure to watch it progress Ray! I can't wait for the next installment!
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