68 110 8hp Kohler starter motor question.
Posted December 03, 2011 - 02:13 PM
The starter on my 110 is pretty much shot 400cca battery barely spins starter motor over. I took it apart and brushes are pretty much non existant and the copper wire windings are coming apart. I looked online for new starter and JD wants around $150 for new one. So I looked else where for aftermarket.
Here is diagram of starter that was on it originally AM31754...
JD states that you are to sub that starter with AM34361 which is this one....
The part number I used was AM34361 as a replacement starter
So I purchased it and it arrived today. Took it out of box and went to install it and it will not work at all without modifying engine cover shroud. Am I missing something or is JD full of donkey doo?
Posted December 03, 2011 - 02:23 PM
Posted December 03, 2011 - 03:27 PM
Posted December 03, 2011 - 05:03 PM
Ken, Sorry for your issues with the starter. If it were mine, I would return the starter and tell them that it is not the right one for your engine. I would also check with the Site Sponsor guys on here to see if any of them have a good used one. I buy a lot of used starters and other item from these guys and always check with them first. If I can't find one here, I will look on evilbay and get stuff there. Starters for these engine will last forever. Also there are some brush kits on evilbay, so you can replace them yourself. I hope this helps...
Ya evilbay is where I got it from and I contacted them to see what they are going to do about it. They also have another starter for sale for same part number cross reference but of different style that looks closer to original but not quite. I think it is going to need more than a brush kit to get it going. The copper end of the armature is worn pretty badly and not much left of it from what I can see.
If John Deere gave that sub number, then the flubbed up. Yours requires mount tabs on the top, while the sub has mount tabs underneath (as mounted).
Yes I agree. I may visit John Deere Monday and see what they have to say about what fits it.
Posted December 05, 2011 - 12:22 AM
No matter where I go to look at cross reference it always points me to the starter I purchased.
Left is from a 1972 Serial #253,586 (or close to that anyway) JD 110. JD Part #AM34361. BOSCH MODEL NO. SMH12-A6.
Center is the one I purchased.
Right is from a 1968 Serial #102,534 JD 110. JD Part #AM31754, UNITED TECH. MODEL NO. SME12A 12
Notice the difference in the drive gear areas.
The center is more suitable for newer Bosch model starters and not older united Tech starters. The rubber piece behind the front gear is too large to go through hole in engine shroud.
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