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#1 markdombroski OFFLINE  

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Posted November 20, 2011 - 12:35 PM

I am a bit confused when looking up my new 140 H3 tag. It is model T0586 which makes it a 1974 model. However, the serial number is 006997M. My documentation says this should be in the 46,000 or 56,000 range. Is this a tag misprint or my lack of understanding?

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Posted November 20, 2011 - 02:12 PM

Mark, I read a story in LAGT or maybe the first magazine that Brandon put out, that sometimes the tag stamper machine would mis-stamp a ID plate. You might want to contact LAGT with this and see if Kate can get this info to Brandon and see what he has to say about this. I hope this helps, Brian

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Posted November 20, 2011 - 02:44 PM

I would say that the serial number is correct and it would be a 1968 model.How did you come up with a 74 model? The 74 started with serial number 56,501 i belive.Would this be one of the 2 you just picked up if so i was looking at the pics and the one looked like a 68 model from the hydro handle.The hydro handle had a change around the 10,000 number from a block that the handle slide against to the style that the handle fit into and locked better.Do you have a pic of the tractor in question?

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Posted November 20, 2011 - 03:05 PM

Bob, Your right, I forgot about the 68 models using TO581 through TO586. Mark is this the one that you thought was a 69 model with the weird color paint?

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Posted November 20, 2011 - 03:06 PM

If it is, It would have came from the factory with a 12hp K301 Kohler, not a 14hp.

There were a few very early 1969 140's that used the 68 model type codes also, it's unclear how many 69's were built with the 68 type codes.

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Posted November 20, 2011 - 03:11 PM

Also i was looking at your pics and the one had the solid rear wheels which i belive was only done in 1968 and the front bumper is different then the later style anmd was only in the pre 10,000 models.Another way to see if it is a early H3 is the hydraulic control valve.The early H3 used 2 different control valves and around 69 or 70 went two a true 3 position hydraulic control valve.

Is the tractor in question the one with the solid wheels and not the weights?

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Posted November 20, 2011 - 04:51 PM

Another dead give away it has 1 brake on the left side of the tractor thats 68 only

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Posted November 20, 2011 - 06:55 PM

Bob, Your right, I forgot about the 68 models using TO581 through TO586. Mark is this the one that you thought was a 69 model with the weird color paint?


Hi Brian, This is not the one with the weird paint. It is an Agriculture green and the engine apears to have been repainted at one time. If this was a '68 model, wouldn't it have the tag on the side of the chassis? This one has the tag in the center below the steering wheel.

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Posted November 20, 2011 - 07:12 PM

If it is, It would have came from the factory with a 12hp K301 Kohler, not a 14hp.

There were a few very early 1969 140's that used the 68 model type codes also, it's unclear how many 69's were built with the 68 type codes.


I looked at the engine, but was not able to find the Kohler engine tag. It looks like it was removed and the eninge was repainted at one time.

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Posted November 20, 2011 - 07:20 PM

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Here is a picture of the front bumper. Bob, you gave me a good clue in addition to not having stearing brakes. I did get underneath and saw that the hydraulic control valve was two separate ones. Two of the levers controlled the top mounted valve, and one lever controlled another valve for the main hyraulic lift. Therefore, this must be a 1968 model, but not with side-mount tag like the 140 H1, I acquired in early September.



Also i was looking at your pics and the one had the solid rear wheels which i belive was only done in 1968 and the front bumper is different then the later style anmd was only in the pre 10,000 models.Another way to see if it is a early H3 is the hydraulic control valve.The early H3 used 2 different control valves and around 69 or 70 went two a true 3 position hydraulic control valve.

Is the tractor in question the one with the solid wheels and not the weights?



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Posted November 20, 2011 - 07:22 PM

Also i was looking at your pics and the one had the solid rear wheels which i belive was only done in 1968 and the front bumper is different then the later style anmd was only in the pre 10,000 models.Another way to see if it is a early H3 is the hydraulic control valve.The early H3 used 2 different control valves and around 69 or 70 went two a true 3 position hydraulic control valve.

Is the tractor in question the one with the solid wheels and not the weights?


Also to answer your question, this tractor is not the one with the wheel weights.

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Posted November 20, 2011 - 07:28 PM

Glade we got if figured out.I did see that the other 140 had the solid wheels also and those are pretty hard to find

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Posted November 20, 2011 - 07:56 PM

Glade we got if figured out.I did see that the other 140 had the solid wheels also and those are pretty hard to find


Pardon my ignorence, but what is a solid wheel? New to this hobby and still learning. :)

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Posted November 20, 2011 - 08:06 PM

Here is the information about the Tractor T0586006997M
Model: 140
Typecode: T0586
Serial Number: 6997
Model Year: 1968
Engine Model and Size: K301 Kohler 12HP
Lift Type: Hydraulic 3 Lever
Paint: Green
Manufactured Location: Horicon, WI

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Posted November 20, 2011 - 08:27 PM

Here is the information about the Tractor T0586006997M
Model: 140
Typecode: T0586
Serial Number: 6997
Model Year: 1968
Engine Model and Size: K301 Kohler 12HP
Lift Type: Hydraulic 3 Lever
Paint: Green
Manufactured Location: Horicon, WI



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