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#31 Deere Green OFFLINE  

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Posted November 11, 2011 - 01:06 PM

someone out there in JD land has to have the 317 service manual if you would be so gracious to share.

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Posted November 11, 2011 - 02:28 PM

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Posted November 15, 2011 - 06:39 AM

Picked up the 317 yesterday and for the trade I got a running tractor with a retro fitted snow plow. The thing is leaking oil like it is water so first order of business is to figure that out.
Don't know how to upload photos directly from my phone so I will have to figure that one out.

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Posted November 21, 2011 - 12:15 PM

Well here are a few of the pictures. Have started tearing it down and will get some pictures of that this evening. Don't know if you can see it that well but I tried to get a few shots of the top of the engine after about 10 min of running. This is the area that fills with oil and then leaks down and around the motor. There is a coat of grease and oil and dirt built up about 1/4 - 1/2 thick on the motor so I am cleaning it up to try to make finding the leak a little easier. Any suggestions would be great.
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Posted November 21, 2011 - 06:46 PM

I'm not familiar with those Onan twins so I can't help with the leak. I wonder if it is pushing it out through the crankcase breather wherever that is. The rest of the tractor looks pretty good from what can be seen in the pictures.

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Posted November 21, 2011 - 11:20 PM

I'm not familiar with those Onan twins so I can't help with the leak. I wonder if it is pushing it out through the crankcase breather wherever that is. The rest of the tractor looks pretty good from what can be seen in the pictures.


That is a Kohler KT-17 of some flavor.

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Posted November 22, 2011 - 10:22 AM

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OK well there is no good way to put it other than...double frick...

Got all the covers off cleaned the 1/2" of grease off and put the thing half way back together so I could start it and see if I could determine where the leak was coming from. Well it worked but as you can see from the pictures it looks like there is a leak somewhere behind the flywheel. Looks like I have no choice but to tear this thing off the frame and crack the case in half to do a quick rebuild and replace gaskets as I go. Any tips on this or I will just learn as I go, or someone think it is something simple that I should not tear this thing down yet?

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Posted November 22, 2011 - 10:53 AM

That is a Kohler KT-17 of some flavor.


For some reason I thought it was a 318!! It looks like a pretty serious leak wherever it's coming from.

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Posted November 22, 2011 - 11:00 AM

These will help you...

http://www.kohlereng...f/tp_2043_a.pdf

http://www.kohlereng..._2107_c_all.pdf

I would also suggest talking with Pruitt in Omaha and see what they might suggest. If I remember I will talk to my local Napa guy about this one.

I would be considering a re-power if budget allows. I will keep my eyes open for stuff on CL.


Now you got me thinking about the 317 that appears to be out of commission a few blocks away....

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Posted November 22, 2011 - 12:32 PM

Thanks guys...any tricks to pulling the engine? I will lable the wires as I disconnect them what else should I keep in mind?

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Posted November 22, 2011 - 05:36 PM

Thanks guys...any tricks to pulling the engine? I will lable the wires as I disconnect them what else should I keep in mind?


Take LOTS of pictures for reference! ~~ grnspot

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Posted November 23, 2011 - 10:21 AM

well it has begun....i have the attention span of my 18 month old along with ADD so i could not wait for anymore tips or help i had to pull the thing. Here are some pictures.
just a side note they hide the starter wire under the motor so when you are trying to pull the engine and it will not come out for some reason check that:smile1:
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Posted November 23, 2011 - 11:02 AM

finally looked at spec # and this is a Series II engine so that makes me happy

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Posted November 23, 2011 - 11:48 AM

Any idea where the oil was coming from. Those are a pretty big lump of iron.

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Posted November 23, 2011 - 11:55 AM

finally looked at spec # and this is a Series II engine so that makes me happy


Even though that's a good thing it being a Series II, remember if it was a Series I, it has survived about 30 years. I do think the Series I has gotten a bad rep - there are still a lot of Series I engines running strong, even after 30 years. My theory would be, after 30 years, it really doesn't make much difference if it's a Series I or II - it it's still the original engine, they have survived fine after all these years.




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