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#1 Deere Green OFFLINE  

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Posted November 08, 2011 - 09:52 AM

So I believe that I said in another thread that I was trying to trade my 726 snow blower on a 300 or 400 series tractor and think I have 2 good leads. Only question is what do you guys think about 314 or 317??? Which one would you choose if you were looking?

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Posted November 08, 2011 - 11:26 AM

Hard one there. Both great tractors. If series II engine, I'd likely go 317.

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Posted November 08, 2011 - 11:34 AM

Thats a nice dilemma to have! The overall condition would be a determining factor for me. The 317 has 2 hydraulic outlets versus 1 for the 314. Thats the biggest bonus with a 317 IMO. Things to look for in both models are the motor mounts and the driveshaft couplers. Both these can be expensive to replace. If the mounts are bad and the PO continued to run the tractor it eventually causes problems with the driveshaft couplers and in extreme cases the input shaft to the hydro can be ruined. Crawl underneath and grab the driveshaft , push and pull on it and turn it in both directions looking for slop at both ends.

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Posted November 08, 2011 - 11:44 AM

The guy with the 317 says it has an Onan. Would that still be worth it?

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Posted November 08, 2011 - 12:19 PM

The guy with the 317 says it has an Onan. Would that still be worth it?


Onan never made a 17hp rated engine. I'd bet it's Kohler.

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Posted November 08, 2011 - 12:37 PM

was there a retro fit that was offered? I read somewhere that JD offered one because they knew the series 1 engine was an issue?

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Posted November 08, 2011 - 01:02 PM

Soon after the Kohler KT17 series I engines began to fail, and as an interim solution, Deere engineered a retrofit kit that would allow an Onan P218G to be installed in the 317. I do believe the P218G was a 18 hp engine, though.


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Posted November 08, 2011 - 01:32 PM

Soon after the Kohler KT17 series I engines began to fail, and as an interim solution, Deere engineered a retrofit kit that would allow an Onan P218G to be installed in the 317. I do believe the P218G was a 18 hp engine, though.


If it's an Onan, then it'll be 18hp. Likely the identical engine they used in the 318.

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Posted November 08, 2011 - 03:35 PM

If the Onan is healthy the 317 would be my choice without a question. I am always watching for a cheap dead 317 to repower...

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Posted November 08, 2011 - 03:56 PM

I'll take a good running Onan any day. Expensive to rebuild, though.

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Posted November 09, 2011 - 05:47 AM

In addition to the extra hp and hydraulics I think the 317 had turning brakes and an amp meter. It was the deluxe GT with the 314 being basic.

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Posted November 09, 2011 - 10:46 AM

I am happy with my 314 mostly due to it having a K-series Kohler single of which I really understand and enjoy working on. That way I won't run into a potentially twin train wreck waiting to happen with a series one. I have purchased a set of 317 brakes and H2 hydraulics to eventually install into my 314. It'll pretty much be a 317 minus a couple of horsepower (unless of course she needs to be bored to the max)!

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Posted November 09, 2011 - 12:45 PM

I am happy with my 314 mostly due to it having a K-series Kohler single of which I really understand and enjoy working on. That way I won't run into a potentially twin train wreck waiting to happen with a series one. I have purchased a set of 317 brakes and H2 hydraulics to eventually install into my 314. It'll pretty much be a 317 minus a couple of horsepower (unless of course she needs to be bored to the max)!


I would agree on the bonus of the K series. They are great little motors. I really like the k301 in the 120. The brakes and h2 addition are also a great idea. If push came to shove and they were equal condition I would have a hard time deciding. The 314 + additions would feed my "build it into what I want" mindset but that can get expensive...

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Posted November 09, 2011 - 02:26 PM

Awesome feedback guys!! I am going to go look at the 317 today and I will try to get a few pics and let ya know what I decide.

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Posted November 09, 2011 - 02:32 PM

The 314 + additions would feed my "build it into what I want" mindset but that can get expensive...

I was just patient enough until I found a 317 going for scrap. Waiting is the key but it's just so dang hard sometimes!




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