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#1 billy220 OFFLINE  

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Posted October 16, 2011 - 03:42 PM

I just bought a 220 from a guy that said everything works perfectly. When i got it home and after it warmed up the motor was really bogging down and when i try to move front or back it about kills the engine. Is it the pump pulling engine down or what. Dont know much about these. The tractor has a new replacement engine in it and when whatever acts up it even shakes really bad. Any suggestions would be great.

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Posted October 17, 2011 - 12:43 AM

hmm

Edited by billy220, October 17, 2011 - 03:45 AM.


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Posted October 17, 2011 - 03:59 AM

Welcome, billy220! I don't know enough about the 220 to help. Hopefully someone will be along shortly.

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Posted October 17, 2011 - 04:19 AM

billy220,welcome to the forum. Glad to have you with us.

Not sure what to tell you about your case problem.

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Posted October 17, 2011 - 05:29 AM

i would start by making sure that you dont have anything but 15w-40 in the system and not hydrolic fluid or atf first. i dont know if this will fix the problem you are having or not i just became a case owner myself and dont know much about them but wen i got mine it had some problems and just by replacing the atf that was in it with 15w-40 it solved most of them. but it soulds like your pump may be going out or something to do with the hydrolic motor even.

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Posted October 17, 2011 - 05:16 PM

engine overheating?
is it blocked with mouse product?:smile1:

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Posted October 17, 2011 - 05:22 PM

how would i tell if overheating and what exactly do you mean by mouse product

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Posted October 17, 2011 - 05:29 PM

how would i tell if overheating and what exactly do you mean by mouse product


Mice absolutely LOVE to build nests in engine shrouds. The nests block air from cooling the engine. Pull the tins from your engine and make sure there is no mouse nest hiding in there.

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Posted October 17, 2011 - 05:37 PM

Overheating,Engine will run decent until the engine warms up an then it will drastically loose power.If your fuel line runs through the blower housing,most of them do,it will boil the gasoline in the fuel line.That's never good.

Mouse Product,Mouse nest.Mice WILL completely fill the entire blower housing with they're nesting material.I've had dozens of tractors and push mowers with mouse nests in them.It will do the following if it is left alone and used with a plugged up blower housing.

Failure to keep external surfaces and the cooling fins clean may cause overheating and result in engine damages such as:
1. Distort valve guides,
2. Sticking valves,
3. Scuffed, scored cylinder walls,
4. Warping of cylinder heads,
5. Distorted blower housings and air baffles,
6. Premature piston ring failure (cause them to lose their tension and thus cause them to no longer function),
7. Premature piston failure,
8. Over-speeding,
9. Loss of power,
10. Fire hazard (debris may get hot and catch fire),
11. Premature Oil breakdown,
12. COMPLETE ENGINE FAILURE.

What for replacement engine is in your Case 220?Is it another Kohler 10hp K241AS?Or was it re-powered with a different type engine?

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Posted October 17, 2011 - 06:06 PM

exact replacement 10hp k241 and no mouse products. readjusted carb and still problem. After it starts it, it will just start all of a sudden start running rough and shaking and i see what looks to be a little smoke around carb area and when it smooths back out smoke also disappears. also starts running a little rough when i put lever in neutral and move travel handle forward or backwards.

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Posted October 17, 2011 - 06:09 PM

Eric, very complete list, thanks.
You did leave off 2, corrosion on any electrical connections and the unfortunate and unmistakable smell of hot mouse whiz.:laughingteeth:

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Posted October 17, 2011 - 06:30 PM

is the fuel tank vent working?

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Posted October 17, 2011 - 06:37 PM

how do you check fuel tank venting. can i just take cap off while it is doing it to see if change.

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Posted October 17, 2011 - 07:24 PM

unfortunate and unmistakable smell of hot mouse whiz.:laughingteeth:


Lol you should smell the cab in the old IH dump truck down at the farm.I'll never turn the heater on again even if it's 50 below 0.

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Posted October 17, 2011 - 08:16 PM

Smoke around carb area could mean a leaky head gasket. A bad head gasket leaks worse as engine warms up. Might also be float/needle running way too much fuel in the bowl, but it would seem getting warm wouldn't cause this to start. I lean to a bad head gasket.




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