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What are the Differences Between a MF 14 and a MF 16?


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Posted October 12, 2011 - 07:50 PM

The air cleaners ARE different, according to AGCO parts books.


Look at the air cleaners in the picture post#7

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Posted October 12, 2011 - 07:54 PM

That larger cleaner might be OE, but in the pic looks like a later Magnum air filter housing.

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Posted October 12, 2011 - 07:58 PM

Look at the air cleaners in the picture post#7


I seen the pics but I don't understand what your trying to point out to me?

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Posted October 12, 2011 - 08:09 PM

My 16
MF16 007.jpg

My 14
MF14 004.jpg
I don't really have a good pic of the 14 air cleaner, last pic shows the 14+16, but it's still hard to see the difference.
1st pic in post#7 shows the 14s better.

16s is wider than the 14s.

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Posted October 12, 2011 - 08:18 PM

Yep, definitely wider Doug, and your 16 pretty much verifies it as OE.

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Posted October 13, 2011 - 06:40 AM

I've never seen a 75 or 76 14 without the extensions. I've never seen anything that suggested that they were an option either.

The air cleaners ARE different, according to AGCO parts books.


Not sure why I had it in my mind that the extensions were optional. Everthing I'm seeing shows them as standard in 75/76 on the 14s and 16s.

I did find mention of engine vibration dampeners on the 14s in this publication.

1976 Massey Ferguson Buyer's Guide (Cons. Sect.) - Manuals - Garden Tractor Talk - Forums

That could be a typo/cut and paste error.

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Posted October 13, 2011 - 09:45 AM

Thanks for all the great ino. After review I see my 16 does have a bigger air cleaner and the grill does not have the exhaust hole. So I am pretty excited about those parts being correct. The engine is on rubber mounts but does not appear to be correct. I believe I will probably swap the rear wheels with the 14 behind it so they are correct and stick it in the barn to wait for the correct engine and a restoration. It looks pretty rough but all and all I think it is in decent restorable condition.

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Posted October 13, 2011 - 10:10 AM

Good luck with your restoration. I did some looking and found an article on the site of another Massey restoration.Here is the link: Garden Tractor Talk - 1970 MF-12h Total Restoration.... From rust to glory Hope this gives you some inspiration. Looking forward to seeing your updates.
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Posted October 13, 2011 - 11:57 AM

Definitely a good candidate for restoration! Much worse have become beautiful tractors.

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Posted April 08, 2012 - 09:05 PM

Hi all!

I'm new to this forum and this is my first ever post.



I have a MF16 garden tractor and am looking for a wiring harness. The MF p.n. is 537 491 M91. Any ideas where to go?


Not that it makes any difference for the wiring, but in reading through the posts, I'm wondering if my tractor is later than '76 as it has rubber mounts for the engine. I replaced them several years ago. Don't know the year of my tractor, I purchased it from the original owner back around '84-'85 for $400 with the 48-inch deck and the optional wider rear tires/wheels. At that time the engine needed work, I did a .010 bore and rebuilt it, still going strong today.



Thanks and best regards,

Bill

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Posted April 08, 2012 - 09:38 PM

Hi. Welcome to GTT. If you still have the wire harness connectors, you're probably better off to make
your own new one. I doubt you'll find a new one, and any old used one you find, on say ebay, is more
than likely fairly brittle.
The 16 had the rubber mounts, and was built in 75 and 76. Either in the manuals section, or pinned at
the top of the massey section, is a serial # / production date list.
Hope this helps you out.

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Posted April 08, 2012 - 10:07 PM

Thanks Mr. Sherwood. The connectors are history at the regulator, ignition switch and implement clutch switch, unfortunately. I'm having charging problems. Alternator is putting out good voltage, new regulator, but I'm wondering if the ignition switch and/or wiring is faulty. Ammeter shows very slight discharge, turn on lights and goes farther on negative side of scale. Battery tested good.

Really appreciate your mention regarding the serial # / production date list. I checked it out and it seems mine is a early '75.


Thanks, Bill

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Posted April 09, 2012 - 04:46 AM

Bill,welcome to the forum.Glad to have you with us.

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Posted April 09, 2012 - 05:51 AM

Welcome, Bill! Might want to make sure it is the correct regulator and is connected properly.

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Posted April 09, 2012 - 01:14 PM

hi are these mf 14 tractors semi auto boxes or are they fitted with manual with a high and low box ? also what is a general asking price of a second hand one with a cutter underneath ?would be interested to know as we do not have any in uk and one of these would be great to show.i know i am asking a lot of questions here but would be also interested in shipping rates to uk the cheapest way naturally. thanks hope you can answer some questions. john




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