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#1 chefchap OFFLINE  

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Posted September 26, 2011 - 06:31 PM

So i have restored a few tractors in the past few year and am really getting into it only thing i am always frustrated with is quality of paint always seems to basically peel off not hard like the old paint job i use the rustoleum paint any thoughts
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Posted September 26, 2011 - 07:54 PM

I used rustoleum for my first couple of restorations and have had great results. For my estate keeper I tried some automotive paint at NAPA and IMO its much better quality than the rustoleum. It's also more expensive LOL

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Posted September 26, 2011 - 08:42 PM

chefchap are you having problems with the paint not sticking to the primer ? It sounds like not cleaned enough, or paint/primer incompatible . Maybe if you go over your steps some of the members can pick out where the problem is . Al

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Posted September 26, 2011 - 08:59 PM

When I've used rustoleum in the past it seems to absolutely need a primer underneath. Have you been priming?

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Posted September 26, 2011 - 09:00 PM

When I've used rustoleum in the past it seems to absolutely need a primer underneath. Have you been priming?


Yes, you do need to use a good quality primer

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Posted September 27, 2011 - 04:37 AM

I always use automotive paint,and yes,you do need to use a good quality primer.Make sure everything is clean,grease,wax free too.

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Posted September 27, 2011 - 06:32 AM

So the steps i use are as follows
sand
rustconvert
prime
paint
I use the rustoleum clean metal primer and i make sure to obey the drying times.
The paint just acts some times like peeling latex, i wonder if it may be the rust converter i use corroseal and brush it on
Paint jobs arnt bad just not as durable as i would like always touching up when putting back together
One thing i dont do is wash the metal before priming since i have the rust convert on it
maybe using rust convert is a unessesary step that i could eleminate

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Posted September 27, 2011 - 07:02 AM

I had the same problem last winter with my 800. After applying the paint it seemed to react with the primer and rust converter. And just like you said , it acts like peeling latex. It was very frustrating.

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Posted September 27, 2011 - 07:26 AM

You do need to wash the metal with a grease and wax remover such as wash & wipe (DuPont ),or Pre-Kleeno ( RM ),etc.
Also,are you sanding the metal so that the primer,paint has something to "grab hold of" ?

Now I can't say whether the rust convert may be at fault,as I don't used that.I sand blast to remove rust,but I realize not everyone has a sand blaster.

Is the primer you are using,a sanding,or non-sanding primer?I like to use a surfacer/primer,which is sandable.

You could use an epoxy primer on the bare metal surfaces,it is very good for corrosion protection,and also a really good adhesion promoter for any kind of top coat that you may want to put on it.That includes fillers,primers,or paint.

Edited by mjodrey, September 27, 2011 - 07:37 AM.


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Posted September 27, 2011 - 07:37 AM

Never heard of corroseal so I went to their web site and it say's it's a water based product , maybe the primer didn't stick to that ? Al

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Posted September 27, 2011 - 08:16 AM

yeah the corroseal is something a old boss introduced me to
Is there a other type out there that is better to use ??
I do use a sandable primer and the metal is coarse when i apply rust convert that is
I wish i had a sandblaster and a blasting cabinet :-)

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Posted September 28, 2011 - 07:40 AM

I've had good luck with this on sufraces that were pretty rusty.,I don't know if I would use it on a surface that needed to be very smooth ( hood fenders ect. ) because it dries very hard that you need a grinder to sand it , Al
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