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#1 Frank Morris OFFLINE  

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Posted September 18, 2011 - 09:33 AM

I'll never buy a tractor made overseas, that puts the best union workers in the world out of work, anyone that does IS unamerican
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Posted September 18, 2011 - 09:44 AM

First welcome to GTTalk Frank.

Yes, all the out sourcing is a shame. Not sure we should zero in on any one manufacturer. Many companies do this just to stay in competition.
As long as there are people in the world that will except a lowing standard of living than ourselves and other people will buy this stuff I see no end.

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Posted September 18, 2011 - 10:15 AM

:welcome: to GTTalk

It's getting harder and harder to find something that is made here, let alone without "overseas" parts. I also don't see an end until we collectively quit being so worried about offending anyone and level the playing field. If you tariff our stuff, we tariff yours. Seems fair, doesn't it? Too many countries are skimming off the top on our items and we say little or nothing. If anyone finds some backbones, please mail them to Washington.
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Posted September 18, 2011 - 10:29 AM

:welcome: to GTTalk

It's getting harder and harder to find something that is made here, let alone without "overseas" parts. I also don't see an end until we collectively quit being so worried about offending anyone and level the playing field. If you tariff our stuff, we tariff yours. Seems fair, doesn't it? Too many countries are skimming off the top on our items and we say little or nothing. If anyone finds some backbones, please mail them to Washington.

Well said, Alan

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Posted September 18, 2011 - 11:22 AM

I'll never buy a tractor made overseas, that puts the best union workers in the world out of work, anyone that does IS unamerican
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That is a rather harsh statement. I own this foreign built Massey. 77aefefa.jpg

I help feed you, vote every election, local/state/national. I also love my country and support it! But owning this tractor makes me less American???
Whether you like it or not, you have bought & will continue to buy goods imported from foreign nations. It may be a telephone or piece of paper, but it's in your home. Tractor or piece of paper, it's the same.
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Posted September 18, 2011 - 11:47 AM

Not saying your unamerican, but first I doubt you bought your hinomoto new, second, I appreciate your hard work to feed the mostly undeserving, lol. but we have to stop this somehow. I thnk Ariens/gravely is still made in wisconsin by americans, they seem to be able to compete, besides the lie about competing is just that, a lie. investors demand more profit, meaning greed, and unions demand more wage and benefit, also meaning greed. So basically our greed is fueling the market of cheap foreign made products, it can only lasts so long

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Posted September 18, 2011 - 11:54 AM

Not saying your unamerican, but first I doubt you bought your hinomoto new, second, I appreciate your hard work to feed the mostly undeserving, lol. but we have to stop this somehow. I thnk Ariens/gravely is still made in wisconsin by americans, they seem to be able to compete, besides the lie about competing is just that, a lie. investors demand more profit, meaning greed, and unions demand more wage and benefit, also meaning greed. So basically our greed is fueling the market of cheap foreign made products, it can only lasts so long


No way I could buy any tractor new! And you are right about our own greed being our downfall. Much of the imports we are almost forced to buy are from our own US companies that send the work over there, so the greed can be satisfied. Sooner or later, the head starts eating the tail, and that's where we all are at right now.
It is sure to get worse before it gets better, that is if it ever gets better!
Sorry I took offense, but I'm VERY proud to be a true blooded American!

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Posted September 18, 2011 - 12:06 PM

Also, there weren't hardly any US makers building subcompact tractors when Massey introduced the imported line. Massey, Allis Chalmers, Ford, and I think even John Deere imported their subcompact tractors. I still don't feel it un-American to buy the modern 2300 series. Anything you buy puts Americans to work no matter where it's made. That said, I do so wish the USA would take back the title of production king. This "service oriented" system is NOT cutting it!

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Posted September 18, 2011 - 12:51 PM

I read somewhere the most American made car is the Toyota Camry. So, to be a good American, should I buy a Camry instead of a Ford or Chevy?

Here's the link to the article.--> What Is an American-made Car?

Redwing boots, made in china now.
Carhart workwear, made in china now.
Westinghouse Electric, chinese owned.
Irwin Tools, chinese owned.
The list goes on and on.
American made isn't as black and white anymore.
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Posted September 18, 2011 - 12:55 PM

I read somewhere the most American made car is the Toyota Camry. So, to be a good American, should I buy a Camry instead of a Ford or Chevy?

Here's the link to the article.--> What Is an American-made Car?

Redwing boots, made in china now.
Carhart workwear, made in china now.
Westinghouse Electric, chinese owned.
Irwin Tools, chinese owned.
The list goes on and on.
American made isn't as black and white anymore.



All so true!

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Posted September 18, 2011 - 04:20 PM

I have to chime in on something. "Red Wing" boots are still made in US right here in Red Wing Minnesota! But they do have another line that is made overseas.

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Posted September 18, 2011 - 04:48 PM

Here is a directory of stuff still made in the USA.

Still Made in USA.com - American-Made Products for Home and Family
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Posted September 18, 2011 - 04:58 PM

Very cool site, thanks for posting...

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Posted September 18, 2011 - 05:32 PM

All so true!

But never fear, We make the chop sticks in I think, Georgia. Also the fortune cookies. We still have a lot of land in soil bank, We still feed the world. As hard as it is Farmers keep us going! I am seeing a lot of people striving to eat what they grow, repairing what they have instead of buying new. Let us all keep our old iron going,buy from your neighbors! Shawn

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Posted September 18, 2011 - 05:58 PM

What Gibby said cracks me up. In 1994 I was a United Auto Worker local 710 for a short time. I drove a Honda Accord and my pickup was a Chevy LUV. The Honda was 95% American made parts and 100% American assembled. They had an absolute fit one day when I drove the Accord to work - and made me park in the very back. It took some fancy talking to even get on the lot - the guard in the guard shack was a prick about it. The Chevy LUV was 100% Japanese parts and 100% Japanese assembled and they thought it was great that I drove it instead of the Accord. So long as it had an American name on the tailgate that was fine.
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