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Posted October 16, 2011 - 06:05 AM

To dump by hand, undo the hitch pin and lift the tongue with the 4000 lb cherry picker that is hand operated.:bigrofl:

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Posted October 16, 2011 - 06:52 AM

Today, I have the challenge of building the lift assembly. I am having a bit of a challenge on how to set up these so the pieces stay put while welding them together.
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The lower one will be 1 1/2" pipe with two 1" OD pipe that are 2 3/8" long centered on 22". The other two will be 1 1/4" pipe, same type of end pieces.
Anybody have any suggestions on how to hold the small 1" pipes so I can weld the larger pieces to them, keeping things square? I have a hole saw that is about the right size for the 1". I could drill two of the 3" X 1/4" flat iron with the hole saw, tack the 1" in them and trim the larger pipe to fit between.

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Posted October 16, 2011 - 07:15 AM

Could you make jig out of wood and screws then clamp you pipes to it then tack weld them in place?

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Posted October 16, 2011 - 07:35 AM

Hi Kenny,
Is your pipe threaded or still thread-able?? If so you could use some threaded tees or crosses and nipples, tighten everything up till you get it set just right then weld her up?? Other than that some kind of jig as referenced above?

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Posted October 16, 2011 - 07:35 AM

Thought about that too. But on the 1 1/2" pip, the 1" only sticks past by less than 1/4". Not much hold in wood there. I could make the 1" pieces long and cut to length later for those. On the smaller ones, I have just over a 1/2" sticking out. Or I could leave the 1" in long lengths, trim the others to fit between and weld them up. Then cut the 1" to length. That may be the the best way to get them all the same lengths and square to the cross pieces.

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Posted October 16, 2011 - 07:36 AM

Greg, no way to thread the pieces.

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Posted October 16, 2011 - 08:11 AM

Greg, no way to thread the pieces.

OK hows about drilling a hole through your large tube, cut or grind notches in the end of your small tubes and use a piece of all thread and nuts washers to pull everything together, check your squares and stuff and then weld up. If you do this you may want to change that wheel on your grinder, looks like the 4 incher is over half gone.

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Posted October 16, 2011 - 08:16 AM

I got into Sketchup and drew up a little something to explain what I was last thinking. I can use pieces of wood clamped between the large pipes to keep them in place. Anyway, how's this look:
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I got the diameters wrong above. Large pipe is 1 1/2", smaller is 1". Blue end pipes are 3/4". All Schedule 40 pipe.

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Posted October 16, 2011 - 08:50 AM

Assuming you then cut the blue to the lengths you want??? Should work fine, using wood blocks between is a good idea, easy to get just right width, but dont start any fires when you weld.

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Posted October 16, 2011 - 08:52 AM

Soak the wood for an hour of so before and it will resist burning for a while. Might smoke though.

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Posted October 16, 2011 - 09:08 AM

Yes, I think cutting the blue to length after would be easier. I'll keep the wood back from the ends a bit to cut down on fires. At least something similar to this should work pretty well, I hope. Thanks for all the feedback. We'll see how it goes later.

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Posted October 16, 2011 - 09:55 AM

Also, maybe consider using a mix of square tube and pipe. The square pieces can be used to butt up against the pipe ends. Not sure if it would work in this situation, but something to keep in mind. Also, don't forget about good ole ratchet straps for pulling pieces together. just got to watch that ends stay square if you do that...

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Posted October 16, 2011 - 06:32 PM

Well, I got them tacked together. I had two pieces of thick oak the I used for holding the small tube. I got out the trusty drill press and proceeded to make holes in everything. A bit hard to do at first, until I soaked it with lots of used motor oil. Then I got the hole saw working.
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In the last pic, you can see the good fit I got. Next I tack welded them all to the tubes. Then I cut them apart and slipped in some pins. Works pretty good on the table.
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I got some parts layed out for cutting tomorrow morning. Once these are cut, it's on to the box. Need to figure out what I want to use for the hinges at the rear of it.
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Thanks for looking.

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Posted October 16, 2011 - 06:59 PM

Looks like you got it covered, GOOD JOB Kenny.
Anxious to see the next step.

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Posted October 16, 2011 - 07:01 PM

That's some nice looking assembly work there Kenny! Was it difficult to get the pipes to stay put while you were drilling them?




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