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Posted September 19, 2011 - 07:47 AM

Is that the same as the Original Cub used?

I don't really know what this one fits.
The one I have is way too tall and I need a shorter one.

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Posted September 19, 2011 - 08:05 AM

Ones on my JD318 aren't very tall but I don't know if using a pair close together would work for you , Al
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Posted September 19, 2011 - 08:34 AM

Ray, measured the one on the Sears GTV/16. It is just a little over 3" tall. Hope that helps.
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Posted September 19, 2011 - 12:38 PM

Ones on my JD318 aren't very tall but I don't know if using a pair close together would work for you , Al

I have a pair of springs and they won't work.
It needs to be a single spring.


Ray, measured the one on the Sears GTV/16. It is just a little over 3" tall. Hope that helps.

The 3 inch would work OK but the top and bottom of the spring needs to be parallel to each other.
I've looked at a couple of Sears springs but the spring mounting area on those Sears tractors sloped back at an angle so the springs wasn't parallel.
Does the GTV16 slope back ?

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Posted September 19, 2011 - 06:44 PM

Looks rather parallel to me. This is a 1981, so they may have changed them a bit from the older ones. If I had an extra, I'd send it to you.

The pic makes it look sloped, but the bottom of the seat is nearly flat where the spring attaches.

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Posted September 19, 2011 - 07:47 PM

Thanks Kenny
I appreciate that information.
I think I saw a spring for one of these tractors on ebay and I'm going to go see if it's still there.

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Posted September 20, 2011 - 06:28 AM

Ray, I hope it works for you. Don't know of one any shorter.
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Posted September 20, 2011 - 06:38 AM

jdcrawler, i have been learking around here for a bit and had a thought, can you use a truck leaf spring, throw it in the forge and bend it to what you need, you could do some cool bends with it, if you was closer to me i could modify the existing one you have to 3 inch high on my forge,
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Posted September 20, 2011 - 07:05 AM

jdcrawler, i have been learking around here for a bit and had a thought, can you use a truck leaf spring, throw it in the forge and bend it to what you need, you could do some cool bends with it, if you was closer to me i could modify the existing one you have to 3 inch high on my forge,

wouldn't heating it take all the spring tension out of it ?

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Posted September 20, 2011 - 07:33 AM

no, let it normalize after heating, the old springs from 1950's, 60's and 70's are high in carbon and fluxed with nickle and magnezium, heat to a low red, just enugh to bend it to the shape you need and so you don't oxidize the carbon out of it by too many high white heats, the new steel depending on grade (ex. : 4034) have to be tempered to blue or purple for springness, i pulled out my note book and it states :1960"s chevy 1 ton truck spring is same as chevell and impala cars in grade, grinder sparks sparkle in 6 to 8 little sparks meaning the magnesium is burning when ignighted by the grinder, grade 6 to 8 spring,
i make garden tools out of the springs, takes 5 tons to snap it, good stuff,
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Posted September 20, 2011 - 07:44 AM

oh, right, my bad, by grade 7 to 8 spring steel, i mean 150 point steel, i was tought old school,
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Posted August 28, 2016 - 08:43 AM

Next phase of project can be found here
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