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Posted September 11, 2011 - 07:23 AM

Welcome to the site and thanks for the pics. Very nice looking tractor.

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Posted September 11, 2011 - 09:45 AM

Thanks all... it needs some TLC but I think a little elbow grease and a bit more $ and it'll be pretty nice. I'd like to do a frame-up restoration and get this thing running top-notch... but I don't wanna bite off more than I can chew (skills and money). I can turn a wrench and have the tools here to do it, but it'll all be a first for me. Right now the main issue is it'll run for x amount of time then die. Then it'll start right back up after a couple seconds... run for the same amount of time then die again. It doesn't act like it's starving for fuel so I think it might be something electrical.

Anyway, it'll be a fun project to chip away at over the winter and I'm sure I'll have tons of questions for the experts here!

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Posted September 11, 2011 - 11:07 AM

Hi Dan, first welcome to GTTalk.
Second, nice looking 14 Enjoy

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Posted September 11, 2011 - 04:08 PM

Congrats on the "new" machine. Looks like a good tractor. NB has all the good stuff, my 14 came from up there too.

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Posted September 11, 2011 - 04:23 PM

If it's running for about the same amount each time, I would clean out the carb and empty out the bowl. Water in there can imitate electrical. Also, take the line off the carb and see if it's running freely.

A good tool to have is a spark checker. Goes inline on the plug and allows you to see if you just lost spark.

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Posted September 12, 2011 - 07:40 AM

If it's running for about the same amount each time, I would clean out the carb and empty out the bowl. Water in there can imitate electrical. Also, take the line off the carb and see if it's running freely.

A good tool to have is a spark checker. Goes inline on the plug and allows you to see if you just lost spark.


Thanks, I'll definitely look into the fuel system as well. I think this may have sat for a while unused so the carb and/or lines could be gummed up. I plan on tearing it all down anyway, so I'll do a good carb cleaning and probably just replace the fuel lines and filter.

There's also what looks like a non-OEM balast resister they stuck on the side of it and ran the yellow wire from the ignition through it. There's a couple wires coming off it just hanging so I'm thinking they might've had a light or something they were using on it. I'll be re-wiring it, so if it's not on the wiring diagram it'll be gone...

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Posted September 13, 2011 - 06:55 PM

If you want to part with that tiller let me know, if you need a kidney something I'd be willing to trade straight up. LOL

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Posted September 13, 2011 - 07:52 PM

Thanks, I'll definitely look into the fuel system as well. I think this may have sat for a while unused so the carb and/or lines could be gummed up. I plan on tearing it all down anyway, so I'll do a good carb cleaning and probably just replace the fuel lines and filter.

There's also what looks like a non-OEM balast resister they stuck on the side of it and ran the yellow wire from the ignition through it. There's a couple wires coming off it just hanging so I'm thinking they might've had a light or something they were using on it. I'll be re-wiring it, so if it's not on the wiring diagram it'll be gone...




Sounds like you're right on track.

I think there is a wiring diagram in here.
Massey Ferguson MF-14/16 Service Manual - Manuals - Garden Tractor Talk - Forums

I see Mac is willing to give a kidney for the tiller.:smile1:
I will offer my kidney, and my wifes kidney also.:smile1:

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Posted September 14, 2011 - 08:02 AM

Hmm.... dunno if a kidney would cover it. Seems the tiller is worth more than everything else combined... Everybody seems to be commenting on it (including some random guy at a Tim's drive-thru)! Unfortunately it's not for sale at this point. I actually will be needing it for some lot work once I get the gears for it and it's running again.

Got pics of your 14?

If you want to part with that tiller let me know, if you need a kidney something I'd be willing to trade straight up. LOL



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Posted September 14, 2011 - 10:56 AM

Hope this works...

http://gardentractor...rt-finish-7274/

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Posted September 15, 2011 - 07:33 AM

Wow, what a nice job restoring that! That's what I hope to do as well. Did you run into any "show-stoppers" with parts? I assume you got the decals from that 'hunter' site and the nose cone from the fella that's making those and the steering wheel caps?

I found most of the hardware I need to get the tiller working but I'm missing some key items that aren't made anymore. I don't think I'll be able to have the whole clutch plate assembly in it. I assume that's to "slip" the sprocket on the shaft if the tiller hits something hard... rather than break stuff. I may have to just find the sprockets and go with those alone. Some key parts are missing that I doubt I'll find anywhere. These are the parts I need and prices from Jack's Small Engine and a tractor junkyard where I found a couple other pieces:

Torque Limiter Assembly
70905857 $ 0.72 Hub Key (1/4" x 1-3/4")
70909007 $ 0.52 Screw (5/16" x 1/4")
1043240M1 $23.85 Clutch Disc - Patton Acres
1043238M91 $42.85 Torque Limiter Sprocket
1043242M1 Torque Limiter Ring
70921458 $ 2.90 Torque Limiting Pin (5/16" x 3/4" spring type)
1043240M1 $23.85 Clutch Disc - Patton Acres
1043241M1 Outer Disc
1043243M1 Special Washer
1043244M1 Spring Washer Deflector Ring
1043284M1 Torque Limiter Stud
42927PF $ 0.13 3/8" Extended Tooth Lock Washer
355566X1 $ 0.25 3/8" Hex Nut
1043285M1 Special Washer
354061X1 $ 0.48 Cotter Pin (1/8" x 1-1/4")

1043232M1 Gear Box Driven Sprocket

832232M1 Screw (5/16" x 1/2")

22235X $ 4.05 Sprocket Shaft Key (3/16" sq. x 1")
1032371M1 Special Washer
354061X1 $ 0.48 Cotter Pin (1/8" x 1-1/4")

Chain Tightener Assembly

1043235M91 Chain Tightener Assembly
1043236M1 Tightener Spring

30288PF $ 0.21 5/16" Large Flat Washer
354613X1 $ 3.32 Bolt (5/16" x 2-1/4" Hex)

Cover Hardware (x3)

353675X1 $ 2.11 Bolt (1/4" x 1/2" Hex)
42906PF 5/16" Lock Washer
30288PF $ 0.21 5/16" Large Flat Washer

Belt Cover Hardware (Rear x2)

7700461 $ 0.67 Bolt (5/16" x 3/4" Carriage)
30288PF $ 0.21 5/16" Large Flat Washer
42906PF 5/16" Lock Washer
32917PF $ 0.21 5/16" Nut

Belt Cover Hardware (Front x2)

364955X1 $ 0.61 Bolt (5/16" x 1-1/2" Carriage)
30288PF $ 0.21 5/16" Large Flat Washer
42906PF 5/16" Lock Washer
32917PF $ 0.21 5/16" Nut

Shield Mount Strap/Bracket Hardware (x2)

7700461 $ 0.67 Bolt (5/16" x 3/4" Carriage)
42906PF 5/16" Lock Washer
32917PF $ 0.21 5/16" Nut


Hope this works...

http://gardentractor...rt-finish-7274/



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Posted September 15, 2011 - 03:29 PM

Thanks. I got almost all the decals from Maple Hunter Decals, although some were from the Massey dealer as well. Nose ring was from GT Reproductions, they make the caps too. There was no real show stoppers. I spent A LOT in parts though, anything that wasn't quite right got replaced. The new starter was one of the bigger expenses at around $125, new muffler was $70 or so. I plan to put new tires on the front and rear before Christmas so that will be expensive. So there wasn't anything too expensive, but it all ads up. Just about every bolt/nut/washer on it is stainless steel too.

I see in your list you have 5/16 lock washers and 5/16 x 1/2" screw should be available at any hardware store.

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Posted September 16, 2011 - 05:40 PM

That is great. I bet you will have fun with that snowblower up where your from. My grandpa had an MF14 that got traded off in 1995 serial 1944005787. I am kind of on the hunt for it. If you don't mind me asking what is the serial on yours?
Thanks, Shane

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Posted September 17, 2011 - 08:16 AM

Hey there! The serial on mine is 1944003095. Close but no cigar! Good luck on the hunt.

That is great. I bet you will have fun with that snowblower up where your from. My grandpa had an MF14 that got traded off in 1995 serial 1944005787. I am kind of on the hunt for it. If you don't mind me asking what is the serial on yours?
Thanks, Shane



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Posted September 20, 2011 - 04:13 PM

Would parts from a massey 3650 tiller fit or work with that one??? May be able to get you some parts you need




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