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#1 Sam OFFLINE  

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Posted April 21, 2010 - 04:52 PM

Hi all, there seems to be some engineering type brains here so here goes.. i have a Toro 216D reelmaster 3 gang mower which is of absolutely no use to me, i just use it to play about on and shunt stuff around. What i was thinking was to remove the rear single wheel and replacing it with a fixed 2 wheel axle (on sliders) then belting front to back as per the massey further down this page ie/ to turn it into a crawler. The two front driving wheels seem to be run by hydraulic motors so would just be a case of changing the oil pipes so they run to their own lever left-forward and reverse. Right- forward and reverse. On wheels this thing can push/pull some heavy loads, although not fast it has loads of torque, my question is.. can i expect this to work, is there any issues with the driving wheels being hydraulic powered? will it have the the same power as now?, if this goes ahead it will be used in the woods pulling a small log trailer. Regards..

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Posted April 21, 2010 - 05:08 PM

Hey sam how about some pic of this just to get a idel of what your talking about.

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Posted April 21, 2010 - 05:20 PM

Ditto on the pictures, let's see what you have to work with.

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Posted April 21, 2010 - 05:25 PM

Sorry, ok basically i want to turn this into a crawler, as it owes me nothing and is just taking up room in my shed, i thought i could turn it into something i can use..obviously removing the cutters etc..maybe bigger wheels for higher ground clearance.

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Posted April 21, 2010 - 06:42 PM

Are you sure that thing isn't rear wheel driven? It looks like there is a hydraulic drive on the rear wheel with hoses going to it?

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Posted April 21, 2010 - 06:53 PM

Are you sure that thing isn't rear wheel driven? It looks like there is a hydraulic drive on the rear wheel with hoses going to it?


I agree,it does look like that.

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Posted April 21, 2010 - 07:52 PM

Are you sure that thing isn't rear wheel driven? It looks like there is a hydraulic drive on the rear wheel with hoses going to it?


It does look to have a massive weight above that single wheel, so it may be one wheel drive.

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Posted April 21, 2010 - 08:02 PM

Hey George it's red lol I think it drive from the two other wheels not the one .

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Posted April 21, 2010 - 08:22 PM

It may well be all wheel drive. Even with that weight above the single rear wheel, I can't see that one wheel alone moving that thing on slopes & the like.

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Posted April 21, 2010 - 08:35 PM

I was on toro's website trying to hunt down the parts list for it to see if it was all wheel drive. You need the model and serial number of the machine to be able to get to the manual. I think along with Dan that it probably is all wheel drive. The last thing a golf course would want is a single drive wheel spinning and digging ruts on the course.

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Posted April 22, 2010 - 11:17 AM

Hi, yes it is all wheel drive, under normal conditions it is driven by the two front wheels but there is a button to engage/disengage the 3rd rear wheel drive, i have a paper manual/parts list here i will check it to see the layout of the hoses/motors etc
*Edit to add that the weight above the rear wheel is the diesel tank.

Edited by Sam, April 22, 2010 - 11:53 AM.


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Posted April 22, 2010 - 12:43 PM

*Edit to add that the weight above the rear wheel is the diesel tank.


Oh, so the front tank is hydraulic oil.

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Posted April 23, 2010 - 07:39 AM

I think it would make a good candidate then for a crawler project. You already have the separate hydro motors up front, all you need is the right hydro plumbing and valves and axle for the back and some tracks and you are good to go :D

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Posted April 23, 2010 - 05:41 PM

Yep, the front tank is the oil and the rear is the diesel which is moulded to take the battery too. Everything i need for this project i can get without too much trouble, just time.. My concerns are the two hydraulic motors and if they are up to the job of turning 16 inch wheels, as i would like to fit some landrover wheels i have for better ground clearance, anyone know if having larger wheels on these motors put more stress on them? or if it effects the ground speed or power?

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Posted April 23, 2010 - 06:57 PM

Taller wheels will raise the speed, but lower the torque to the ground. The smaller the wheels the better for a crawler if you plan to actually work it. If just for s showpiece, 16" wheels would be fine.




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