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Posted October 17, 2011 - 05:20 PM

Hi Doug,
Been digging around on the site and wondering if you ever sold your tiller?


I had 3 tillers altogether, 2 narrow, 1 wide, both the narrow are sold and the wide one I'm keeping for myself.

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Posted October 17, 2011 - 05:57 PM

Just found a set of springs and the bracket on CL. Link: http://gardentractor...872/#post106159

Someone needs these, little too far of a drive for me tho... :D

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Posted October 18, 2011 - 02:10 PM

Have to agree with you on lifting the 650 with the lift rod. Thought at first it was just me as it takes me two hands on the rod to lift the darned thing up. I have big chinky tires on the back and thus far, have not had any traction issues with the MF 12 and the tiller. It is a wonderful little tiller and so far has done a great job. Have a JD 318 and originally was looking for the tiller for it. Finally gave up when I came across the MF 12 and tiller for sale so I jumped on it. A good decision so far.

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Posted May 20, 2012 - 08:01 PM

After searching for the last couple of years i finally got a narrow 650 tiller/w spring bracket,gear box,and drive shaft at a great price to boot.Now to figure out which tractor to put it on. :dancingbanana:

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Posted May 21, 2012 - 05:43 AM

After searching for the last couple of years i finally got a narrow 650 tiller/w spring bracket,gear box,and drive shaft at a great price to boot.Now to figure out which tractor to put it on. :dancingbanana:



What are your options?

Do you have a picture?

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Posted May 21, 2012 - 05:51 AM

Good news, glad you found one. Especially with all the stuff that's normally missing.

By the way, you can't claim ownership yet...
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Posted May 21, 2012 - 08:00 AM

After searching for the last couple of years i finally got a narrow 650 tiller/w spring bracket,gear box,and drive shaft at a great price to boot.Now to figure out which tractor to put it on. :dancingbanana:


I find the tiller works better on a gear drive tractor because it's easier to hold a steady slow speed, Hydros will work but much trickier to maintain a slow speed with the tiller engaged.
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Posted May 21, 2012 - 02:29 PM

What are your options?

Do you have a picture?


I have a 67 10 w/sleeve hitch on it at the moment
also a 66 10 ,68 12h,and also my sons 75 10.That needs a bracket ground off the back.

I'll work on the pictures.Hopefully tonight
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Posted May 21, 2012 - 04:02 PM

I find the tiller works better on a gear drive tractor because it's easier to hold a steady slow speed, Hydros will work but much trickier to maintain a slow speed with the tiller engaged.


Doug, why is that? is the tiller speed changing with ground composition causing the engine to slow and the hydro to vary?

Just trying to get my head wrapped around it, want to use the scrap massey as a Tiller Tractor at some point in the future.

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Posted May 21, 2012 - 06:31 PM

Doug, why is that? is the tiller speed changing with ground composition causing the engine to slow and the hydro to vary?

Just trying to get my head wrapped around it, want to use the scrap massey as a Tiller Tractor at some point in the future.


I've only used the tiller on my 67 MF12Hydra and 70 MF10gear drive.
If your at 3/4 throttle (recommended engine speed in the tiller manual), put the gear drive in 1st gear, Vari position 4 the tractor goes at a fixed ground speed and that's it.
The tiller tries to push the tractor along but the tractor holds it's ground speed.
I've used it in 2nd gear Vari-speed 1 or 2 and it does good also, but wouldn't want to go much faster.
With the gear drive in 2nd gear when you get to the end of you run it's quicker to turn around than when in 1st gear, just move Vari-speed to 5, whip around then pull back to Vari-speed 1 and start tilling again without changing gears.

For the Hydro at 3/4 or more it is much trickier to get the tractor to move at 1 to 2mph (recommended ground speed in the tiller manual) and hold it's ground speed as the tiller tries to push the tractor along, it can be done. Try driving your Hydro at 1mph it is much more sensitive to load variations than when driving at 5mph.
On the Hydro where it really shines, you can turn around much faster, 3pt turn forward backward than the gear drive can. This is the only advantage the Hydro has over the gear drive for tiller use.

So if you have a choice, make a long narrow garden and use a gear drive with the wide tiller.
However most times we have to make do with what we got and if you only have a Hydro it will do the job fine.
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Posted May 21, 2012 - 07:53 PM

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Here is the tiller i picked up sun at the little guys show in mt wolf.I was wrong about it being complete i need to fab a bracket that the spring bar attaches to.That won't be that hard to do.

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Posted May 21, 2012 - 08:00 PM

:thumbs: Looks it real good shape.
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Posted May 21, 2012 - 09:32 PM

Wow, that is in nice shape. It still has the skirt on it and everything.

As for what tractor, some of the decision is made for you... There is a tube extension that goes on the tiller input for use with the MF12's. The 10's don't need them. I can take a pic of mine if you're really wanting to put it on the 12.

IDK what they do, just what they're for.
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Posted May 21, 2012 - 11:37 PM

Wow, that is in nice shape. It still has the skirt on it and everything.

As for what tractor, some of the decision is made for you... There is a tube extension that goes on the tiller input for use with the MF12's. The 10's don't need them. I can take a pic of mine if you're really wanting to put it on the 12.

IDK what they do, just what they're for.


Curious mind wants to know. I'd like to see that picture, please.

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Posted May 22, 2012 - 05:55 AM

Curious mind wants to know. I'd like to see that picture, please.

I'll see if I have a better pic, but it's visible in these.
http://gardentractor...attach_id=33497
http://gardentractor...attach_id=21414
it's held on with the muffler clamp looking piece.
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