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Posted August 28, 2011 - 04:16 PM

Dropped the front axle out of the Ford today and installed the new bushings I have had since May. I had already put in a new pin when I had the motor out. Still has some wear on the frame holes, but I have nothing to fix that with. Found lots of wear on the deck lift pivot points. It has a short (1/2") shoulder bolt, 5/8" dia. with bronze bushings (3/4" OD). New Holland wants over $8.50 per bushing and $9.50~ for the bolts each. It takes 8 of each for the whole mechanism. Found some bushings at McMaster-Carr that are 1/8" longer for $1.79-3.42 each. Guess where I will get mine. I will just have to orientate the bolts so the least worn areas are up. At least for now.

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Posted August 28, 2011 - 04:38 PM

All 3 of my Fords needs all of that done too.....It aint gonna happen....maybe on one

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Posted August 28, 2011 - 04:58 PM

I guess all that wear explains why the blade didn't lift very high. I have a lot of wear at the front Mower attach points. I will try to build that up with weld.

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Posted August 29, 2011 - 06:29 PM

I took a few pics of the lift parts that are worn. Not a pretty sight.
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The shaft I can weld up as it has no rotating parts on it. The front mower mounts at those worn spots.
The shoulder bolt is typical, thought this is the worst of the four I removed. The bushing is the best of the four, all the rest have only the thick ring left. I hate to pay over $9 each for the bolts, but haven't found any type of replacement as yet.

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Posted August 29, 2011 - 06:38 PM

Kenny could you replace the shoulder bolt with a bolt + a bushing? The bushing could be spot welded or JB welded to keep it from turning if that is an issue.

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Posted August 29, 2011 - 06:50 PM

The shoulder bolts are 5/8" OD where the bushing rides, but have 3/8"-16 threads. So I would have to get 8-5/8" bolts, cut off to 1/2-5/8" long and weld in a 3/8" bolt thread. Wonder if I can find bushings for 3/8" bolts that are 3/4" OD? HMMMM!!! I'll look into that.

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Posted August 29, 2011 - 06:53 PM

Use 5/8 shouldered Allen bolts, Mc Master has them, and I believe you can get them in 1/2 shoulder length .
Oh and they ate hardened too

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Posted August 29, 2011 - 06:58 PM

Found these:

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I could cut into 1/2" lengths, get two for one price. I would need washers at each end for the 3/4" hole they fit in. This might work. About $3.50 each.

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Posted August 29, 2011 - 07:01 PM

Keith, I didn't find any with that short of shoulder length. Maybe looking for wrong thing. I'll look again.

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Posted August 29, 2011 - 07:06 PM

Wonder if I can find bushings for 3/8" bolts that are 3/4" OD? HMMMM!!! I'll look into that.


Thats what I was getting at. If you added the bushings to the 3/8 bolts and maybe a washer on the head end of the bolt if needed. I have no idea what the lift system looks like so it may not work. 3/8 to 5/8 or 3/4 bushings should be easy to get.

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Posted August 29, 2011 - 07:07 PM

Got piles of them at work , all the pivots on my 3 point hitch are just what your looking for, just longer ;)

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Posted August 29, 2011 - 07:07 PM

I did find that shoulder length, but the thread is 1/2" instead of 3/8".

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Guess I could drill out the holes they go thru.

Looked a prices, $6~ compared to $9~ for OEM part.

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Posted August 29, 2011 - 07:25 PM

Brian, here is a page from the parts manual. Item 14 is the mower lift bar to weld. 15 is the shoulder bolt, 16 is the bushing.

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I hear what you guys are saying, just have to figure the best solution. Probably use the 3/8" bolts with washers and 3/8 X 3/4 bushing. Then, if I wanted to go back 'stock', I could.

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Posted August 29, 2011 - 07:48 PM

Kenny it sounds like you now have a plan. It's always good to be able to go back to stock. I've done a few mods that didn't work out over the years and you need a plan B when that happens.

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Posted August 29, 2011 - 08:06 PM

I know what you mean. Since I don't have a parts tractor, I don't want to mod something so bad it can't be returned to the original condition. I will get the 3/8 X 3/4 bushings, cut in half (at least close) and get 3/8" grade-8 bolts and washers. This should work real well and take a lot of slop out of the lift. This is also the front blade lift.




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