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#1 poncho62 OFFLINE  

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Posted April 15, 2010 - 06:31 AM

I have a MF 10 with Varidrive, so it has the 2 drive belts......Just wondering if I should get new belts.....A couple of weeks ago, I got the tractor out and the belts seemed to slip going uphill......As the tractor and belts warmed up it got better and seems OK now......Yesterday, I took the cover off and the belts look kind of sloppy on there.......I am not sure how tight or loose they should be.....Called MF and its about $75 for new ones.......Opinions?

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Posted April 15, 2010 - 08:02 AM

The first thing I would try is to make sure the variable pulley setup is free to slide.
There is a grease fitting on the inside of the shaft that the pulley runs on. The center part of the variable pulley should move back and forth on the shaft easily. I'll have to get my book out to get you the proper belt tension adjustment procedure.

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Posted April 15, 2010 - 08:17 AM

The Varidrive pulley is working fine.....I had it running with the cover off and had a good look at it. The reason I am concerned with the belts is that the rear spring seems to be extended all the way no matter where I set the Varidrive. I would figure that it is there to move the idler to take up slack. Seems to me that this belt has stretched a bit...It is a MF part, so it may be the original......

BTW, is there another source for these belts, say NAPA or some other parts place?

I am going to take it out this morning and see if I can find a tougher hill to test it.....

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Posted April 15, 2010 - 01:19 PM

Poncho,
In the manual that is in the massey section it has the adjustment procedure in it. I would only replace the belts if they look really worn. As far an anymore adjustment for the rear belt the rear pulley is to be taken apart and shimmed to get closer to the proper setting.

I think it was broken2 that had posted a belt source. I will try and see if I can't find the post.

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Posted April 15, 2010 - 01:23 PM

Here ya go, I found his post:

I bought variable drive belts from www.jackssmallengines.com Front belt#515382m1 $32.21 / Rear belt#515383m1 $27.33 I don't recall the shipping cost. They are good quality,made in USA Agco belts with the massey part# right on the belt.



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Posted April 15, 2010 - 01:24 PM

I don't know if that would really save you much till you would pay shipping would it?

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Posted April 15, 2010 - 02:53 PM

Here ya go, I found his post:


thanks....might save a few bucks after shipping.......I cut the grass with it today and climbed some hills...doesn't seem to be slipping now, so I think I will live with it for a while......

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Posted April 15, 2010 - 03:14 PM

Hi Poncho62,

I am also looking for drive belts and wondered if there was any cheaper source. Trouble is these are quite specific - both are 22 mm or 7/8" across the top with a 30 degree angle on them. The front one is 45 inches long and the back one is 60 ins. You can find Gates belts with the right dimensions for length and width, but they have a 36 degree angle and I fear they won't sit as well in the sheaves. You can also find vari speed belts (try googling vari speed 2230) with 22 mm width and 30 degree angle and sure enough all sorts of lengths are available, but for specialist applications and at heaven knows what price. I can't find any cheaper alternative to the Massey dealers here - yet.

I would be interested to know if anyone has had a satisfactory experience with the Gates green stripe belts (numbers are TR 28445 and TR 28596)?

As to the rear belt and pulley - if the idler is at its limit then it sounds as though the belt has stretched, (although the piece holding the idler has very little clearance against the transaxle casing and if that gets bunged up with dirt it will stop pivoting freely) - either that or the rear transmission pulley has too many shims between the sheaves so that the belt is running right at the bottom. I had one shim between the sheaves on mine and the other five bolted on to the outside of the pulley. Simple enough to undo the four bolts and swap some around.

George.

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Posted April 15, 2010 - 07:40 PM

I am also looking for drive belts and wondered if there was any cheaper source. Trouble is these are quite specific - both are 22 mm or 7/8" across the top with a 30 degree angle on them. The front one is 45 inches long and the back one is 60 ins. You can find Gates belts with the right dimensions for length and width, but they have a 36 degree angle and I fear they won't sit as well in the sheaves. You can also find vari speed belts (try googling vari speed 2230) with 22 mm width and 30 degree angle and sure enough all sorts of lengths are available, but for specialist applications and at heaven knows what price. I can't find any cheaper alternative to the Massey dealers here - yet.

I would be interested to know if anyone has had a satisfactory experience with the Gates green stripe belts (numbers are TR 28445 and TR 28596)?

As to the rear belt and pulley - if the idler is at its limit then it sounds as though the belt has stretched, (although the piece holding the idler has very little clearance against the transaxle casing and if that gets bunged up with dirt it will stop pivoting freely) - either that or the rear transmission pulley has too many shims between the sheaves so that the belt is running right at the bottom. I had one shim between the sheaves on mine and the other five bolted on to the outside of the pulley. Simple enough to undo the four bolts and swap some around.

George.


Hi George,
Welcome to GTtalk. Here is info from another thread for a source for belts and they have the massey numbers on them.

I bought variable drive belts from www.jackssmallengines.com Front belt#515382m1 $32.21 / Rear belt#515383m1 $27.33 I don't recall the shipping cost. They are good quality,made in USA Agco belts with the massey part# right on the belt.

As for the shims I thought I read in the manual about being able to move the shims around to help take slack out of the belt but once it would be to a certain point you are left with no choice but to replace it.

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Posted April 15, 2010 - 09:44 PM

Thanks George,

I am sure you are right about replacing the belts. My problem is the same as Poncho62's I am here in Ontario and freight from the US can be quite a cost - even worse if something gets sent via UPS - they can charge $50 minimum for customs clearance, which tends to take all the fun out of Ebay. Now if Jacks Small Engines had a branch here in Canada ....

George.

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Posted April 16, 2010 - 04:35 AM

:welcometogttalk:George, glad to have you here.

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Posted April 16, 2010 - 06:42 AM

Welcome George.......Know what you mean about UPS....bunch of crooks. Where in Ont are you?

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Posted April 16, 2010 - 09:33 AM

Hi Poncho62 - I am just south of the 401 between Aberfoyle and Cambridge. I have an MF12G in pieces at the moment - trying desperately to get it back together before the grass gets too long. Not many times you wish for a longer winter!!

George.




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