I need more traction???
Posted August 09, 2011 - 12:49 AM
Posted August 09, 2011 - 07:18 AM
I will start by saying I haven't ever pulled GTs. I have pulled a few of the farm tractors stock. Getting the power into the ground can be difficult. Go too far with anything and you loose your "stock" status. One thing I learned with my Massey... Full throttle isn't the only way to go. On farm tractors, a good working gov can be your best friend in the field and on the track. By watching the guys who go before you, you can sometimes figure where the bad spots are and throttle back. If you let the engine and gov do the work, it will provide the power it needs without (hopefully) loosing traction.
If there is any way to loose some front weight that may help... Make more available for traction. Be sure to have wheelie bars.
As for tires, at the last GT pull I watched, the few turf tires I saw did very well. The track was a clay base and not wet. Ags work better in mud, or loose stuff, turf on more solid surfaces as there is more ground contact. If there is a spinout point or a loose spot, tell her to avoid it. If you get a set of ags, you may want to keep the turfs, mount them on spare rims & take them along. You can change them back once you get there if the course looks like they would do better.
Wish her luck for me & tell her not to give up yet. Most of the people there have been doing this for years and she will learn. Stress to her that having a good time is much better than a ribbon anyways.
Thanks for being involved, she's a lucky kid by the sounds of it.
Edited by MH81, August 09, 2011 - 11:27 AM.
Posted August 09, 2011 - 08:03 AM
Good luck, and keep us posted please, oh yeah, pictures are a must !
Posted August 09, 2011 - 08:30 AM
Posted August 09, 2011 - 09:40 AM
skyrydr hit the nail on the head to that you should have her try going faster, next gear up. Problem with the next highest gear is it might be too much gear. Good thing is with the Cubs there are a lot of gear sets available from various places to change the gearing.
Switching to a 26" tall ag tire might be a great combination of both traction and taller gearing.
Edited by olcowhand, January 11, 2012 - 08:08 PM.
changed "ags" to "turfs"
Posted August 09, 2011 - 11:14 PM
Posted August 10, 2011 - 04:13 AM
You need to get things moving quickly. Does the tractor lift the front end ? At all ? At the start, or at the end before digging holes? Pulling is an art all in it self, and not easy at first, or ever for that matter. Study your competition! Tractor set up is a mathematical formula based on a triangle and center of gravity, get these correct and you will go far. Good luck
Posted August 12, 2011 - 09:23 PM
tips.. Traction isnt everything you could have a great setup and great tires but if you pick a wrong line your toast.. on a shiny clay track run a lower gear.. clay sucks up power so you need torque.. on clay I pull in 1st with antiques or 5 1/2 with the prostock (custom gears) use dull tires with no lug Dick Cepeks makes them.. 1" lug cut to the carcass from front to back 26.12.12 size TALLER is better more lugs are better.. you want less lug in clay and a low tire pressure thus putting torque to the track.. use bias ply tires not radials (better sidewalls for wrinkling)
not to offend anyone but turf tires are for cutting grass they are made to run on grass not pull a sled.
in stone dust or sand run a higher gear.. try 2nd or 3rd.. now in stock antique we use old worn tires from a farmer drive up the road a few miles and thats it good for the engine and the tires.. a hand held wood plainer works good too we have one for the prostock thats never seen wood..
other tips.. this is stock so don't go full throttle as soon as you get the chain tight aviods bogging the motor... AVOID holes and with expeirence you'll be able to see them.. you can let off a little through them but its all timing.. keep the tractor and sled as straight as possible aviod making the tractor work more than it has to.. plan your line before you even hook to the boat and dont wait till the last second to avoid holes make gradual movements if holes are on the right side start turning left gradually right off the line when the boat is lightest
finally wieght on a clay track (depending on the tractor) this takes work but with 200lbs ballast i'd start with 40# on the front and 80# each side as close to the back axle as possible you want to carry a wheelie but not be all over the place so play with it until you balance the tractor took me 3 years to get the aniques set up perfect
in sand all the weight goes on the back but play with it
ANY questions regarding set up or strategy just ask.. i've been pulling for 10 years grand father has been for 19 and uncle has been for 32 i will find your answer
Edited by venisonslayer128, August 12, 2011 - 09:38 PM.
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