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Posted May 15, 2018 - 06:47 PM

I have an M14 which doesn't start; the solenoid just clicks. I want to remove the starter, but after removing the mounting bolts it still won't come off. It seems that it is assembled to the bearing plate. Do I need to remove the thru bolts to get it off? I haven't found a service manual for this, just a parts manual.



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Posted May 15, 2018 - 07:07 PM

Have heard the through bolts are what mount it but never had to get into one. Service manual

 

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Posted May 15, 2018 - 08:24 PM

Thanks Garry! That helps a lot.



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Posted May 16, 2018 - 11:25 AM

Yup. Be careful some have nuts on the backside of the bearing plate while others use the bolts that hold the starter together to mount it on the engine.

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Posted May 16, 2018 - 04:51 PM

Yup. Be careful some have nuts on the backside of the bearing plate . . .

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Posted May 17, 2018 - 03:42 PM

Kohler Starter step II

 

This starter is becoming an issue. I'll start from the beginning.

The ignition switch went bad; the tumblers fell apart. So, I got a new one from Case, installed it and it ran fine for a half an hour. Then, I went to start it and nothing, won't turn over. The solenoid clicks and that's all. I used a trouble light and it has juice all the way to the terminal on the starter. I turned the engine by hand to be sure the starter isn't seized. I also used a jumper wire from the battery direct to the starter terminal; same thing. It sparks when I contact the terminal, I believe there is continuity. I removed the starter and jump it with a battery charger and it still won't run. I disassemble the starter and the brushes and commutator is fine. Not burnt or worn.

 

I hate electricity. It always makes me feel bad about myself!



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Posted May 18, 2018 - 06:52 AM

Should I have started a new thread?



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Posted May 18, 2018 - 07:39 PM

I have had a few that I have had to add an extra ground cable from the block to the solenoid mount or even straight to the battery. But if the starter won't run when off of the machine on the bench something is wrong in there. Could be a cracked magnet or short in the armature could even be dry or worn bushings

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Posted May 18, 2018 - 08:59 PM

It has a ground cable from the engine to the battery and the magnets look good. I'm hoping grease will help. I have to go and get some graphite grease tomorrow.



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Posted May 19, 2018 - 05:48 PM

I cleaned, lubricated checked the brushes and reinstalled the starter. It still doesn't work. I think I'm going to have to take it to a shop and have them test it. 



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Posted May 19, 2018 - 06:11 PM

yeah that brush cap can be a PITA to get back on....  One thing I do have that a friend of mine that is a former teacher gave to me thinking would be cool "wall art" is a growler, a tool for testing armatures for shorts.  I havent used one in about 25 years, I remember you set the armature into it, turn it on and run (just) a hacksaw blade over the bars.... how it works or what to look for is stuck somewhere in a bout of "CRS" at the moment.... 






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