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#1 KennyP ONLINE  

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Posted February 17, 2018 - 07:35 PM

I've been offered one for <$100 that runs but smokes. Has a deck that is supposed to be good. Won't see it till Monday. Want to know if parts from a 317 and a 140 might work on it if need be!


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Posted February 17, 2018 - 08:16 PM

http://www.wfmfiles....ated_Feb04).pdf

 

here is a link for attachments


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Posted February 17, 2018 - 08:25 PM

Two different 316’s. I believe. One has kohler engine and the other an onan engine. Just wondering.

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Posted February 17, 2018 - 09:28 PM

Like Propane1 said, there are two different 316s, if it's the early one with the Kohler engine a lot of the parts from a 140 or 317 will work. The only things I think that are different is the steering on the 317 and the hydro control on the 140. If its the later 316 then a lot of the 318 parts will interchange.


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Posted February 17, 2018 - 11:19 PM

I was too just gonna ask "which 316"? 


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Posted February 18, 2018 - 05:24 AM

I haven't a clue 'which' it is as yet. Guess I'll find out Monday!


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Posted February 18, 2018 - 07:42 AM

Seeing we may get heavy rain Monday, may go over today and take a look. I'll take a battery and some gas to see what it runs like.


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Posted February 18, 2018 - 09:36 AM

Either way, I'd jump on it.  

 

Early 316 = 1978 only 300 that was rebadged after 312 created confusion in the lineup.

 

Late 316 = 318 without power steering, H1 hydraulics, and non steering brakes.


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Posted February 18, 2018 - 09:57 AM

Kinda hoping it's an 'early' model as I have H2 handles for a 317. And the H3 off the 140. Plus the dual brake pedals off the 317.


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Posted February 18, 2018 - 12:26 PM

The early model had the H-2 set-up but there were two different lever mount/pedestal designs based on the serial number.  Both can be adapted but the direct swap is easier than the other.  My 312 thread talks about the differences.  The 140 pieces would pretty much directly work on the early frame and the 317 parts are the same basic pieces as used on the late frame 316.  I know these closed frame machines after many lessons learned with my 120 and 312s.


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Posted February 18, 2018 - 01:06 PM

The early model had the H-2 set-up but there were two different lever mount/pedestal designs based on the serial number.  Both can be adapted but the direct swap is easier than the other.  My 312 thread talks about the differences.  The 140 pieces would pretty much directly work on the early frame and the 317 parts are the same basic pieces as used on the late frame 316.  I know these closed frame machines after many lessons learned with my 120 and 312s.

i'll have to reread that thread, Travis. I know he was going to church this morning and then taking his Mom to lunch. I'll call him about 1-1:30 to see if I can go look at it. It's just a few blocks away!


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Posted February 18, 2018 - 05:30 PM

Well, I bought it! It's been sitting a while and the side panels are missing. I hope the tires hold air. From the serial # I think it's an '86 model. Got it cheap, <$60. Has an Onan engine, didn't see an oil filter on it. Hood has been repaired. Seat is shot. Has H1 hydraulics. Has something at the back, looks like a lift mechanism of sorts (might have been a part of a bagger). I'll know more when I get it home and take pics for you folks.

They have a 112 with electric lift and sleeve hitch. He is going to find out what they want for it (not his).


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Posted February 18, 2018 - 06:08 PM

You did good Kenny, even if it ends up a parts donor.  Lots of great goodies there.


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Posted February 18, 2018 - 06:18 PM

Great job Kenny, I have a 316 open frame like yours that I may have parts depending on what you might need. The open frame 316 is the same style as the 318, 330-332.

And I have a set of 316-318 side panels that yours if you want them.
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Posted February 18, 2018 - 07:01 PM

You did good Kenny, even if it ends up a parts donor.  Lots of great goodies there.

Thanks Daniel! I know the engines is supposed to smoke. But that 1-7/16" electric PTO makes it all worth while.

 

Great job Kenny, I have a 316 open frame like yours that I may have parts depending on what you might need. The open frame 316 is the same style as the 318, 330-332.

And I have a set of 316-318 side panels that yours if you want them.

I'll take those side panels, Brian. May have to meet you somewhere and do some swapping. I'll know more when I get it here! Since this doesn't have an oil fliter, it's probably a 16 HP Onan. I have an 18 HP on Bertha that I could swap into it. It's a good running engine.

The lift handle is broken off, but the piece is there, so I can fix it. May put the H3 valve in it if I can get the lines to fit to the front. It does have one set of quick connects on the front already. And I will see if I can put the dual brake pedals on it, bet it can be done. That would make this a pretty neat tractor. Seat pan is rotten and it will need paint. I'm pretty stoked about this thing!

 

Hmmm? Wonder if it has 1" front spindles! Got the 317 front axle and a set of wheels!


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