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Posted February 17, 2018 - 04:51 PM

the ones he shows aren't the automatic ones. 


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Posted February 17, 2018 - 05:02 PM

Some of the release valves were automatic style that didn't need a release handle to disengage them.

Yes, the Sundstrand U on my John Deere F935 doesn't have a release lever, and if I push them down they stay down, but as soon as I try pulling, or fire the engine, they pop right back up. 

  You got an awesome deal for this package.  I've never seen a 169 myself.  Would have been nicer not having paint poured over it, but then if not, the price may have been higher!


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Posted February 17, 2018 - 06:49 PM

All Kohler K series engines that were used in Cubs were painted yellow but if it was a replacement engine it was black.

 

The correct tail lights were the square red Bargman square style and they fetch a pretty good price today. The grille was the same on all the 1x8/1x9 and can be found at a fair price.

 

I'm pretty sure that engine has the balance gears so you may want to remove them before they put a view port in the side of the block.

 

Keep up the good work.


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Posted February 17, 2018 - 07:10 PM

No, the engines in the quiet line series were black from the factory. On the 108/9, 128/9, 149 and 169 the engine should be yellow.
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Posted February 17, 2018 - 08:50 PM

Some of the release valves were automatic style that didn't need a release handle to disengage them.

I didn't know they put them in this series of tractors.  I know my 1811 has the automatic style.  

Maybe the brake pedal was down all of the way when I had tried to move it.  :wallbanging: Know I have to try and get them unstuck.

What do you think about the engine being replaced based upon the 12 fin or 13 fin block?

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Posted February 17, 2018 - 08:54 PM

Yes, the Sundstrand U on my John Deere F935 doesn't have a release lever, and if I push them down they stay down, but as soon as I try pulling, or fire the engine, they pop right back up. 

  You got an awesome deal for this package.  I've never seen a 169 myself.  Would have been nicer not having paint poured over it, but then if not, the price may have been higher!

Thanks Daniel

If it hadn't been painted the decal on the side of the dash would have said 169 and he might have asked even more then.  



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Posted February 17, 2018 - 08:57 PM

All Kohler K series engines that were used in Cubs were painted yellow but if it was a replacement engine it was black.

 

The correct tail lights were the square red Bargman square style and they fetch a pretty good price today. The grille was the same on all the 1x8/1x9 and can be found at a fair price.

 

I'm pretty sure that engine has the balance gears so you may want to remove them before they put a view port in the side of the block.

 

Keep up the good work.

So you're saying you think this might be an original engine for this tractor?

Thanks for the information!



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Posted February 17, 2018 - 09:05 PM

the ones he shows aren't the automatic ones. 

Been a long day, didn't even look at the picture close enough to see that.  Guess next time zooming in will help.


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Posted February 18, 2018 - 02:59 AM

  Did you get to pressure wash today, Looks like that may remove some paint. I had a Toyota once that I stripped the nose of with a pressure washer, Some back yard paint shops are amusing.  Don


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Posted February 18, 2018 - 10:11 AM

Dodge Trucker, yes that is correct, I didn't even think about the QL und up series.

 

There is nothing wrong with having a 12 fin in it. That was the correct replacement motor that IH offered. I don't know if Kohler switched to the 12 fin and Cub painted those yellow later in the production run. I have 2 169's and they both have yellow 13 fin motors.

 

All 169's are keepers.


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Posted February 18, 2018 - 12:01 PM

Dodge Trucker, yes that is correct, I didn't even think about the QL und up series.

 

There is nothing wrong with having a 12 fin in it. That was the correct replacement motor that IH offered. I don't know if Kohler switched to the 12 fin and Cub painted those yellow later in the production run. I have 2 169's and they both have yellow 13 fin motors.

 

All 169's are keepers.

I agree, I'm keeping it! 

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Posted February 18, 2018 - 12:02 PM

  Did you get to pressure wash today, Looks like that may remove some paint. I had a Toyota once that I stripped the nose of with a pressure washer, Some back yard paint shops are amusing.  Don

Nope, but I'm hoping to get it done quickly this morning before it starts getting really cold like they say it going to get!



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Posted February 18, 2018 - 12:41 PM

Pressure wash it today and you will have to get it inside next to that pellet stove to dry.When I got up this morning it was 27, now 25. Gowing the wrong direction. Don


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Posted February 18, 2018 - 04:38 PM

I was able to get the tractor pressure washed today before it got too cold!  It was 39 F so I made sure and hurried up!  It looks better but still needs a lot of TLC.  Here is what I've found out so far.  The front tires won't hold air for more then a couple of minutes so they will have to be replaced.   

The engine block is black and not just dirty so it's been replaced sometime in the past.  I'm going to removed the head and see what it looks like inside.

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The yellow on the engine and the trans tunnel looks like a different yellow then IH made.  Two paint jobs????

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I tried to pressure wash the crude paint job off but no luck.  I did try to expose the 169 stick under the paint.  You can barely make it out.

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Somebody added this to the hood.  It works but they used rivets to attach it.  Probably going to remove that.

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They also drilled four holes in the hood and installed nuts and screws in the holes?????

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While I was putting everything away it started to hail.  Finished in the nick of time!

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Posted February 18, 2018 - 08:45 PM

Pressure wash it today and you will have to get it inside next to that pellet stove to dry.When I got up this morning it was 27, now 25. Gowing the wrong direction. Don

It's been snowing off and on sense 1 today but none of it is sticking because the ground is warm.  It's only  34 F right now but it's suppose to get to 21 tonight.  I had to put the pressure washer in the garage because I couldn't find my adapter to blow out the pump.  The garage is a lot warmer then the shop.  Stay warm Don!


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