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#16 Mark 149 J. ONLINE  

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Posted February 14, 2018 - 11:42 AM

   I bet you are glad you are not going after that 169 today.    Don

Absolutely!  We only had rain here but Walla Walla is getting snow.  I knew yesterday was the only time I would be able to get it.  The price was right for $160.  I told my wife I would use my poker money to pay for it otherwise I wouldn't have been able to get it.  I'm glad that i was able to come up with that solution! 


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Posted February 14, 2018 - 12:08 PM

Wonder if a muffler off of a JD 200 series would work?  You would have to block off the exhaust end and use a hole saw on the other end and weld in a hunk of pipe but it might work out pretty good and you can find them pretty cheap on Ebay. They are about the same size muffler and they sound about the same. The cub 169 muffler is just a little quieter.  I can measure the muffler on my 214 if you want to try modifying one.

 

Not sure how the baffles are arranged inside it but I think it will work out ok.

 

Here is one that looks to be in good condition.

 

https://www.ebay.com...AAOSw86JacYcp. 

 

My neighbor sold his 169 that I got running for him so I can't measure an original 169 muffler.

 

Cub Cadet Quietline muffler is almost the same as the JD muffler but it exits out the side of the muffler. The material on the sides is alot thinner than the end caps so the JD muffler should be easier to modify without burning through when welding.

 

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Thanks Eric!

I will have to look more into that tonight!



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Posted February 14, 2018 - 12:14 PM

Absolutely!  We only had rain here but Walla Walla is getting snow.  I knew yesterday was the only time I would be able to get it.  The price was right for $160.  I told my wife I would use my poker money to pay for it otherwise I wouldn't have been able to get it.  I'm glad that i was able to come up with that solution! 

   For that kind of money I would be digging it out of the bottom of my sock drawer where I throw my change. Think the guy would have taken a coffee can full of change.  We are pushing on close to 7" here today.   Don


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Posted February 14, 2018 - 12:37 PM

   For that kind of money I would be digging it out of the bottom of my sock drawer where I throw my change. Think the guy would have taken a coffee can full of change.  We are pushing on close to 7" here today.   Don

He had several people wanting it other wise i think I would have gotten it for less.  I was prepared to take all my coins to the back in exchange it for bills if I needed too.  I was the first to call so he was nice and held it for me until I got there around 5:40.  

 

Wow! That's a good amount of snow for this late in the season!



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Posted February 14, 2018 - 12:38 PM

Very nice, I want a 169 in the future!!!
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Posted February 14, 2018 - 01:11 PM

Very nice, I want a 169 in the future!!!

i figured you would have owned one already!  I got mine totally by accident.  I told the PO after I got it loaded that I thought it was a 169.  I don't think he really cared or knew what I was talking about.  I had originally planned on give the tractor minus the engine to my son until I found out it was the 169.  He wasn't happen about that.  He'll have to continue fixing his 123.


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Posted February 14, 2018 - 04:23 PM

   Very nice. If I find a good deal on Craigslist I usually just tell them I am on the way with money in hand. To many times I have showed up to buy something and found they didn't hold it. Don 


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Posted February 14, 2018 - 04:28 PM

Ditto!
I drove to Portland for two tractors and owner wouldn't answer his phone to give me directions. 8 hours round trip wasted
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Posted February 14, 2018 - 05:07 PM

Ditto!
I drove to Portland for two tractors and owner wouldn't answer his phone to give me directions. 8 hours round trip wasted

   Yep I wont even get in the truck without a final address for the destination. Don


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Posted February 14, 2018 - 05:24 PM

   Yep I wont even get in the truck without a final address for the destination. Don

Yep!   I learned my lesson!  No address no go!



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Posted February 14, 2018 - 06:00 PM

i figured you would have owned one already!  I got mine totally by accident.  I told the PO after I got it loaded that I thought it was a 169.  I don't think he really cared or knew what I was talking about.  I had originally planned on give the tractor minus the engine to my son until I found out it was the 169.  He wasn't happen about that.  He'll have to continue fixing his 123.

 

Nope, don't have one of them YET, but I will find one here some year...


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Posted February 14, 2018 - 06:19 PM

I couldn't even find a 16hp Kohler to fit a Cub for that kind of money.... I found an idiot thinking they could get $150 for a bare block and crank at the time I was looking..... I have a 1650 that I got w/o an engine that will now instead donate its ported pump and hydro lift to a 129..... 



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Posted February 14, 2018 - 06:34 PM

Here are some new pictures that I took today.  I think the paint can be scraped off.  The prep job was so bad they didn't even remove the hood decals before they painted it.  I've decided I'm going keep the tractor complete and clean it up.  I can always restore it later on when I have more time.

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The rear lights don't look like the correct factory ones.

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Yep, a 12 fin Kohler. 

EricFromPA mentioned this to me in an earlier post(#13).  I looked it up and apparently 169 had the 13 fin motor and if the engine has 12 fins it's a replacement engine.  I've looked into this even further and some people say the 12 fin motor is also an original motor for the tractor.  It's just the factory ran out of the 13 fin motors and started putting in the 12 fin.  If anybody can add any other information about this please do so!

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The original grill is missing as well.  

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If you look closely you can see the hood decals underneath the paint.

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Posted February 17, 2018 - 01:42 AM

We finally got the tractor off the truck and into the shop.  My son couldn't wait to start scraping off the paint.  So far he's done part of the right side fender.  The paint is not in great shape but it looks a lot better then what they've spayed it with.  I'm amazed by what people consider a good paint job.  They painted over everything they could and then they put a clear coat over everything!  Why?? 

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The carb is leaking gas so I took it off and giving it a good cleaning overnight.  Inside the barrel it has #30 stamped into the carb.  I think the 10 and 12 hp models used a #26 and the 14 and 16 hp motors used the #30 carb.  I'll have to look that up.  

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The hydro release valves are stuck in the down position.  I've got them soaking overnight and will try to get them to unstuck tomorrow.  There is no release handle on the side of the trans tunnel cover.  I'm not sure why?

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I was able to scrape the paint off of the engine decal.  It's a little hard to read but it does say K341.

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It looks like the front tires are leaking air.  I want to put a tube inside them.  Does anybody have a suggestion on where to buy the tubes from.  My local tire store doesn't carry them?

I also bought a battery at Walley World.  340 CCA for $40.

 

Tomorrow I'll pressure wash the tractor and see if I can remove most of the grease and maybe even some of the paint.


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Posted February 17, 2018 - 04:24 PM

Some of the release valves were automatic style that didn't need a release handle to disengage them.


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