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#1 WHX14 OFFLINE  

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Posted January 31, 2018 - 01:37 PM

My dad bought this tractor about five years ago, maybe more. I think he paid 850 for it and it came with a deck, the blower and some kind of lawn vac for the back. He scrapped the lawn vac and the deck which now I wished he hadn't done. He wanted it just for a snow mover for our cabin up north. I paid no never mind to it over the years and never really had much seat time on it until lately. I was always afraid to run it as something was sure to break then I would have to fix it as he was always working it. Now that he not being of sound mind anymore the task has fallen on me to run it and of course wrench on it. Had it out blowing snow a couple of weeks ago and of course it broke! The Onan was surging bad, throttle cable broke, blower mounting bolts stripped out and worst the blower was shooting sparks out like mad. Dad did you know this I ask? Yah he say always threw sparks like that! Must be a 4th of July tractor then. So I replaced the “up north” tractor with a Wheel Horse 520H and a single stage to bring this one back to the shop for some attention and possibly to sell. I am a Wheel Horse guy so I know very little about these tractors so any info to school me would be appreciated.

Not the best pics will get some more when I get ready to bring it in the shop.

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Posted January 31, 2018 - 04:59 PM

Nice tractor you have there .
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Posted January 31, 2018 - 07:07 PM

That is a nice tractor and you won't find one better than that in my opinion

That tractor is one that most Massey collectors want

 

You should use it for a while before you decide to sell


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Posted January 31, 2018 - 08:54 PM

That is a really good machine. Download the manual from our Manuals Section and follow all of the maintenance proceedures. The surging is possibly water in the gas or a mouse nest under the sheet metal of the engine. Give it a good cleaning as you go. The sparks have to be a bad bearing or a bent piece in the second stage. The tractor is worth putting some time into. Good Luck, Rick
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Posted February 01, 2018 - 10:50 AM

This is one of the best garden tractors ever made in my opinion and I strongly agree with what all the previous posts say.  The only thing that these tractors didn't have, which would have made them perfect, was power steering.  This Snapper has an Eaton hydrostatic unit with a Peerless 2500 transaxle and it's a VERY heavy and VERY large well built tractor that will last many years with proper maintenance and there's no real weak points in the drive system.....it's very well built and reliable.  I personally would keep this one and not hesitate putting a few dollars into.


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Posted February 01, 2018 - 05:30 PM

Thanks fellas ...yes starting to get attached to it for sure. I'm sure the surging is minor and nothing a carb cleaning & gov adjustment wouldn't cure. My Wheel Horse brothers are encouraging me to fix it up a little and return it to duty. My problem with they're fix it up a little is just that and mine is looking like this work of art! !

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Posted February 01, 2018 - 09:37 PM

I'll jump on board with the others - that is a great tractor you have, and it doesn't look all that bad either.

Could post the eng S/N, to get an idea of build date.

 

I got one last fall, that seems a bit "newer" than yours, mine is 3424 5609 with eng A83xxxxxx.  Meaning engine built Jan '83.

 

If you mean that when you get done it will look like that Massey, do it please, that's beautiful.  

 

Dan


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Posted February 02, 2018 - 01:30 PM

Here's a pic of that engine tag Dan. I'm thinkin its a 83 or so but could very well be wrong. not well versed on how to pick the serial # for dates on an Onan.

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Posted February 02, 2018 - 03:59 PM

Here's a pic of that engine tag Dan. I'm thinkin its a 83 or so but could very well be wrong. not well versed on how to pick the serial # for dates on an Onan.

This isn't the original engine, as this one is 20HP and the original was 18.


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Posted February 02, 2018 - 10:54 PM

olcow is right,

 

the code on the serial number is "letter" is month, A=Jan, and the next two are the year,  so in this case,

build date of March 1994.

 

Your tractor is getting better by the post.:) 

This may have elec ignition, not sure when it was introduced.

 

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Posted February 03, 2018 - 09:20 AM

The P series had Onans version of electronic ignition. It still has a battery coil and condenser. It uses a magnetic trigger on the flywheel instead of points. That's great it has a p220. Good strong engine. Although it's not a huge difference from the 18. Both have same stroke and bore. Your has different heads and a slightly higher lift cam.

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Posted February 05, 2018 - 09:23 AM

I though it was odd with a 20 HP instead of 18. Some fellas had told me a 20 was correct and that's just what Snapper did. The date code usually isn't wrong so I am inclined to believe you guys & this is a repo. I can usually tell when a motor has been swapped out. Will know more once I get the hood off and get working on it. I would guess this motor has electronic ignition as my other P220s are and they are older than this one. Can one tell the year of the tractor from the serial number in the pic above? Thanks for the good info guys.

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Posted February 05, 2018 - 09:55 AM

I can't find year info other than they were built 79 through 84.


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Posted February 05, 2018 - 12:30 PM

Somebody might be able to know the build date from the S/N, but I'm not aware of it if it's been posted here yet.

 

With that said, I have been recording tractor S/N and eng S/N when I can fine them, and can give 2 data points.

 

S 1855A    14 235863  -   B80 3508780

S 1855       34 245609  -   A83 3651449 

 

I also have a 04 xxxxxx number and a 24 xxxxxx number. 

 

I have no idea what or if the 1st 2 digits mean anything but they seem to be "bulk" stamped and the rest of the number sequential for the unit.

 

For those reading this, more S/N's are welcome.

 

Dan   


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