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#1 rlnguy OFFLINE  

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Posted January 12, 2018 - 07:36 PM

After hanging around here for a while, and reading all the discussions, I convinced myself that I needed a tractor with loader.

I picked up a 1973 140H3, with a newly built PF Engineering loader, for what I think is a good price.

It starts and runs good, engine had new starter, coil, plug, points, and rectifier.

Loader works smoothly.

I'm going over it, and doing a few minor repairs/improvements, adjusting brakes, adding weight, etc.

I'm planning to do the "poor man's power steering" adding thrust bearings on the front spindles.

Then, the other day, I ran across a discussion, that mentioned bronze bushings, in the front axle, where the spindles pass.

I figured, as long as I have the front end apart, I would replace them, as well. Given the age, they are probably worn.

I looked in my parts book, and found part number, a bit of looking, found dimensions, and ordered the bushings.

or so I thought...........

then I noticed, my tractor has 1" spindles, but the bushings are 3/4"ID, x 1 1/8" OD.

A little digging, found that, indeed, they made a change to 1", on later models.

So, back to looking for bushings, to fit, before I take it all apart.

That's where I got stuck-I'm coming up blank on information on the larger bushings.

One discussion I read, left me with the impression that maybe the bushing was eliminated?

Where do I go from here?

Thanks for any info.


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Posted January 12, 2018 - 08:49 PM

If one of the site sponsors can't help you out check with Baum Hydraulics Corp on their web site.  Will need the ID, OD and length you need.


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Posted January 14, 2018 - 01:32 PM

Thanks, for the possible source.

My problem, right now is I don't know what the dimensions are.

I'm not in a big hurry, I've got a few other things to do on it, and it's too cold to worry about, until it warms a bit.



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Posted January 14, 2018 - 02:06 PM

That axle with the 1" spindles was also used on the 317. Could have been used on others also.



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Posted January 14, 2018 - 05:04 PM

Thanks, KennyP,

that gives me a place to start.



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Posted January 14, 2018 - 05:45 PM

Hello and welcome to the site.  bunch of great old tractor enthusiasts here, me included.  (not the old part, just the tractor part...lol!)

 

Ya just can't do much better than a  John Deere 140.  A great  tractor to have.   I have one too.

 

Do you have a camera and would you post some photos please?  thanks!


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Posted January 14, 2018 - 06:00 PM

Got a serial number on the tractor to confirm the details?  JD parts shows the switch at 38,001 through the end of the production run.  AM37164 and AM37165 are the 1" spindle part numbers. The 300/316k/312 also use the same spindles.  That should help you figure out sources of the specs.    

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Posted January 14, 2018 - 10:02 PM

Thanks for the information. The serial number is 054574M, so well into the range of the larger spindle. 

I don't have it apart yet, so I don't really have any photos that would be helpful.

A quick look at a 300 front axle, and it looks like the bushings are no longer used.

I'll confirm that, if it ever warms up enough to take it apart.

This is actually my 2nd 140H3. The first, I had for just a few months-rescued from the dump-with a deck, tiller, and trailer.

Sadly, I had to sell it when I moved across country, and didn't have room to take it.

It joins my my 69 Wheelhorse, and 87 Simplicity in my shed, both bought from original owners.

Thanks again, to all for the help.


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Posted January 15, 2018 - 05:58 AM

don't have to be spindle pics...tractor pics work fine for me  :D


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Posted January 15, 2018 - 06:07 AM

The 140 H3 parts tractor I have has the 3/4" front axle, but I have part of a 317 (front axle, frame and rear axle). Missing too many parts missing to get the 140 going again.



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Posted January 15, 2018 - 06:13 AM

I see 140' s for sale up here every so often....and I have access to a good running (or at least it was when I gave it to my brother-in-law)  140  h-1....what do you need Kenny,..Tulsa is a great road trip


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Posted January 15, 2018 - 08:03 AM

I see 140' s for sale up here every so often....and I have access to a good running (or at least it was when I gave it to my brother-in-law)  140  h-1....what do you need Kenny,..Tulsa is a great road trip

Here's the thread on it. Don't want to hijack this thread.


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Posted January 15, 2018 - 11:19 AM

well, Here are a couple pictures, before I loaded it to bring it home.

I have to thank everyone for their help.

(before I started hanging around here, I didn't know I needed a loader;))

I'm sure I'll have more questions, as I get into this.

The loader is nicely built-has it's own hydraulic system, pump, and all.

The tractor itself is in it's "work clothes", and I plan to leave it that way-with the possibility of replacing the seat.

I'm planning to fill the rear tires, and add some suitcase weights I picked up-hoping that will suffice to make it a bit more "steerable"

I've picked up a sleeve hitch, so I can use my rear mounted tiller, as well.

 

 

 

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Posted January 31, 2018 - 09:07 AM

That is one nice looking rig!


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Posted January 31, 2018 - 09:53 AM

So I helped a guy in California upgrade his late 140 front axle with parts from a 312.  To make everything work you need the following parts from a 300/316K or 312:

- Axle 

- spindles

- tie rods (longer than the 140) 
- wheels (use larger bearing)

 

It pretty much was a bolt-on affair.  The 300 series center-steer front axle is a fair amount wider than the late 140 stuff so you need to swap all of the related parts to get the steering geometry right.  


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