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#1 poncho62 OFFLINE  

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Posted December 31, 2017 - 12:57 PM

Quite cold here today -20c (0F).......anyways, had my tractor going yesterday, so thought I would do a bit of snow cleanup......K301 Kohler.....Had a hard time starting it, cranked real slow, put boost on battery etc....When it finally started, a bunch of oil came out behind carb, thinking the valve cover vent. After running a minute or so, it stopped.........Never had this happen before. I am thinking if I blew a gasket, it would keep leaking. Think maybe my oil is just to cold and thick?...Its 10w30


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Posted December 31, 2017 - 01:13 PM

Never started one in those temps, but a block heater might help!


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Posted December 31, 2017 - 01:16 PM

-20 here today also. Oil would be thick for sure. Maybe the breather is gummed up and needed cleaning. Just a guess.

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Posted December 31, 2017 - 01:17 PM

Hmmmmm, I have a K301 in my horse and it never has a hard time starting in cold and I have never had any type of oil dump occur so something must be wrong. I would think that if you blew a gasket as the oil warmed up it would become worse not better as the oil would get thinner and run out even faster. Also if it were from bad rings or excessive blow by you would find it to get worse once its warmed up not better.

 

Only thing that I think that is different between yours and mine is I use synthetic oil, synthetic oil remains thinner even in the coldest conditions. I run Mobile 1 0-40w European formula all year round. 


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Posted December 31, 2017 - 01:52 PM

Crankcase breather has iced over on a previous run. 


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Posted December 31, 2017 - 01:57 PM

I started my P220 Onan in subzero a few days ago. It was noisy at first. Just don't push it too hard until it warms up. I let my run for 15 minutes or so at about half throttle to build some heat before loading it up. I also just use 30w so your 10w would actually be better for it in the colder temps on first start.

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Posted December 31, 2017 - 02:12 PM

I thinking too cold and oil too thick.  ???


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Posted December 31, 2017 - 04:03 PM

Thanks guys....expecting some snow tonight, so will see what happens tomorrow


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Posted December 31, 2017 - 04:16 PM

Thanks guys....expecting some snow tonight, so will see what happens tomorrow


Cover it with an old blanket and put a 60w drop light under the engine. Even a little heat can thin the oil. It has helped me with old trucks many times. Good Luck, Rick
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Posted December 31, 2017 - 04:41 PM

What brand of oil do you have in it? 

 

I had Coastal 10w30 in my walk behind snow blower last year and the oil was so thick that it looked like a big glob of glue on the dipstick. It pushed through the breather when I started it.

 

I could not start it with the pull rope. Had to drag out the extension cord and plug in the 110v starter.

 

I let it warm up good and drained the oil and put Castrol High Mileage 10-w30 in it which is a Part synthetic oil. It doesn't get nearly as thick as that cheap oil I had in it.

 

It was +5*F with -11*F wind chill here last evening when I started the old blower to blow out the front of the house and even though it felt stiff I could use the pull start. 

 

The straight 30 wt bar oil for my chainsaw would not come out of the jug. Was going to cut up some wood but that didn't happen.   


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Posted December 31, 2017 - 04:42 PM

Cover it with an old blanket and put a 60w drop light under the engine. Even a little heat can thin the oil. It has helped me with old trucks many times. Good Luck, Rick

 

My dad used to build a fire under the old Cat bulldozers years ago.......lol

 

I have a heat lamp I may strap under there for an hour or so if its too cold. 


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Posted December 31, 2017 - 04:45 PM

What brand of oil do you have in it? 

 

 

 

Its Canadian Tire house brand.....I added some oil after and it did seem thick coming out of the jug.....I should try some synthetic I guess. 


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Posted December 31, 2017 - 05:24 PM

My guess is crank case pressure.  Just make sure there is no blockage.



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Posted December 31, 2017 - 05:37 PM

 

 

 

It was +5*F with -11*F wind chill here last evening when I started the old blower to blow out the front of the house and even though it felt stiff I could use the pull start. 

 

 

Wind chill is the effect of the wind evaporating moisture off of your skin and lowering your body temperature. Wind chill doesn't have an effect on an engine. There is no moisture evaporating off and removing heat.



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Posted December 31, 2017 - 05:40 PM

I don't think there is anything wrong with your engine, as I said before "oil too thick" doesn't do it's job right and stuff happens.

I think most engine manufactures recommend thinner oil in cold temps.


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