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#1 Cc182222 OFFLINE  

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Posted December 23, 2017 - 04:43 PM

I always seem to need a project. Thankfully I have the health, time and funds to enjoy my projects.

Today I acquired a 916h with a tiller and deck. Got home and gave her a good bath. The Kohler K341 runs good, BGB seems tight and functions well, hydraulic lift is strong as well as the Sunstrand pump. So the main systems seem OK.

Deck is rough with a couple of holes (easily patched). Good spindles.
Tiller-an older Allis tiller that needs to be thoroughly gone through.

New to the brand but not new to garden tractors. I started with two Sears suburban's,then a Cub 1650, John Deere 322, Kubota 5600h diesel, and a Snapper 1855 with a FEL that I built last winter.
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Posted December 23, 2017 - 05:34 PM

VERY nice!  The Deutz have a small, but strong following, and their desirability has been growing..


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Posted December 23, 2017 - 06:37 PM

Welcome to GTT. Check out our Manuals Section for the manuals that you need(3 free per day). That is a very nice setup. I find that my AC/Simplicity tractors seem to have the best handling and give the best finish when mowing. Be very carefull if you push or tow that tractor. I was warned when I got mine that you can damage the pump if you don't push down the two buttons on top of the transaxle. Check the owners manual about that. Good Luck, Rick



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Posted December 23, 2017 - 07:03 PM

Thank you for the welcome!
Been searching and reading the information provided by you guys prior to purchase.

Somethings up with this pulley-rubbing on the filter. And the rear PTO belt is not routed correctly.2635cedbbdfa62207c94b94dc18d5033.jpga363d80bfb8b486a050d4d0431d90bd7.jpg
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Posted December 23, 2017 - 07:27 PM

Welcome to GTT. Flat idler pulley should have the back side of belt on it.


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Posted December 24, 2017 - 05:16 AM

And this is neat. Original sales invoice.
Traded in his Allis 712.
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Posted December 24, 2017 - 05:42 AM

The rear-most pulley on the tractor is huge! I don't remember ever seeing one larger than 4" in that spot.

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Posted December 24, 2017 - 08:16 AM

Yeah....there is definitely some funky stuff going on back there. Tiller is an old Allis/Simplicity 32" model. Have not found a # on it but it pretty sure it is this one
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New machine detective work is always interesting and fun. Correctly fixing PO's "fixes" sometimes leaves us scratching our heads.

And MERRY CHRISTMAS!
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Posted December 24, 2017 - 10:44 AM

With the old tiller you can't route the drive belt right without removing the filter. To use the right mule drive you would have to get a much later model tiller. If your tractor was a gear drive the mule drive would be ok.


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Posted December 24, 2017 - 03:50 PM

Thanks, I knew I had seen the big pulley on my searches before. I figured out that the smaller of the 2 pulleys will work for proper BGB to mule drive belt routing. So I will use it and figure out the proper dimension for the 2nd mule drive pulley to run the tiller at the appropriate RPM-replacing the huge pulley.
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The pulley is bolted on so I can swap it's position on the shaft. Of course, that means new belts-but they are needed anyway.




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