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#1 spudder OFFLINE  

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Posted December 11, 2017 - 04:55 PM

    I thought I would update my 1855 project. I've pretty well completed the power steering conversion so I will show some pictures of the installation. All brackets are made to be bolted on. If a person ever wanted to put this tractor back to stock, it would be a simple task. All steering components were taken from a Cub Cadet 1864. The steering shaft and outer column tube were both lengthened.

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Posted December 11, 2017 - 05:40 PM

Wow thats well thought out.Looking good.Will be keeping an eye on you mod and looking forward to the end results.


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Posted December 11, 2017 - 06:35 PM

Excellent job on the brackets. Almost looks like a "kit" that could be purchased.

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Posted December 11, 2017 - 07:13 PM

Excellent job on the brackets. Almost looks like a "kit" that could be purchased.
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Agreed, excellent work!
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Posted December 11, 2017 - 09:40 PM

Nice work!  Could you show pictures of how it's hook to the hydro pump?

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Posted December 12, 2017 - 11:03 AM

WOW!  That looks great!  You certainly do good work.  I think I'm going to have to copy this setup on my 1855.


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Posted December 12, 2017 - 01:15 PM

Excellent job on the brackets. Almost looks like a "kit" that could be purchased.

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 I agree Eric.  The bracket I built just got hacked & welded without regard to looks.  Spudder did nice work!


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Posted December 12, 2017 - 04:38 PM

That looks great!! I like how clean your setup is, something to be said about putting detail into parts that you probably cant even see when it is all together.


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Posted January 11, 2018 - 11:03 AM

I keep coming back to this thinking about how this would make the 1655/1855 one of the most perfect large garden tractors.  I have a million other projects, but this would be a great modification to make.


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Posted January 13, 2018 - 06:47 PM

I'll post an update when the tractor is back running. When I bought it last October, it wasn't running. I've had it running and it sounds really good. As with most anything I own, I did some modifications.  I changed the carburetor to a Nikki off a 318 John Deere. (A really great upgrade) The original muffler was bad so I replaced it with one from the 318 John Deere. Had to modify the muffler, it's brackets, and air cleaner. Have done some other minor modifications.

Now, the most time consuming project is mounting a Model 24 Johnson Loader. I have the sub-frame pretty well built. Next thing is the tower brackets and front diagonal braces.

I guess I should have a build thread on the loader project too!

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Posted January 18, 2018 - 02:05 AM

I'll post an update when the tractor is back running. When I bought it last October, it wasn't running. I've had it running and it sounds really good. As with most anything I own, I did some modifications.  I changed the carburetor to a Nikki off a 318 John Deere. (A really great upgrade) The original muffler was bad so I replaced it with one from the 318 John Deere. Had to modify the muffler, it's brackets, and air cleaner. Have done some other minor modifications.

Now, the most time consuming project is mounting a Model 24 Johnson Loader. I have the sub-frame pretty well built. Next thing is the tower brackets and front diagonal braces.

I guess I should have a build thread on the loader project too!

Tim

 

TIm,

 

I might copy your idea with the Deere 318 Nikki carb swap.  What advantages have you found compared to the one that came stock on the MF 1855?



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Posted January 20, 2018 - 02:32 PM

   I think the Nikki carburetor is a better, more user friendly unit. The main thing is to be sure all the tiny holes in the metering rod are open. I used a torch tip cleaner to clear all the holes including the bottom of the tube. I found a thread on the net about cleaning a NIkki. It was very detailed and stressed the need to open all the holes.......especially clearing the inside of the tube from the bottom. The author of the thread had cleaned the carb more than once but couldn't it to idle and run smooth. The whole problem was the metering rod being plugged from the bottom.

  Using a Nikki carb on your Massey creates it's own problems. Linkage, and air cleaner, choke and throttle placement have to be adapted. Nothing major but if the original air cleaner is used, the base has to be modified if the original heat shield is retained. I used JD 318 parts....governor linkage rod, carb, air cleaner and crankcase vent tube. This made the conversion easier because all the parts came from another Onan engine.

I changed the air cleaner because my original muffler was junk so I used another Onan/Nikki air cleaner along with a modified JD 318 muffler.

  I couldn't believe how well the engine ran and idled with the Nikki carb. I can provide pictures if desired.


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Posted January 20, 2018 - 06:35 PM

   I think the Nikki carburetor is a better, more user friendly unit. The main thing is to be sure all the tiny holes in the metering rod are open. I used a torch tip cleaner to clear all the holes including the bottom of the tube. I found a thread on the net about cleaning a NIkki. It was very detailed and stressed the need to open all the holes.......especially clearing the inside of the tube from the bottom. The author of the thread had cleaned the carb more than once but couldn't it to idle and run smooth. The whole problem was the metering rod being plugged from the bottom.

  Using a Nikki carb on your Massey creates it's own problems. Linkage, and air cleaner, choke and throttle placement have to be adapted. Nothing major but if the original air cleaner is used, the base has to be modified if the original heat shield is retained. I used JD 318 parts....governor linkage rod, carb, air cleaner and crankcase vent tube. This made the conversion easier because all the parts came from another Onan engine.

I changed the air cleaner because my original muffler was junk so I used another Onan/Nikki air cleaner along with a modified JD 318 muffler.

  I couldn't believe how well the engine ran and idled with the Nikki carb. I can provide pictures if desired.

 

 

Thanks for the information.  I might do this down the road if I run into issues with the stock carb on my 1855.



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Posted January 21, 2018 - 11:19 AM

I also did the same conversion on my 1655 before the 24hp swap. It was a night and day difference. I actually kept the original shroud and muffler. Just cut the bottom of the original air cleaner and welded in a cutout from the Nikki air cleaner. From above it looked like the stock DD.

I also have the Nikki on the P224 that's now in it. Main thing I swapped was the choke cable. I used one from a Deere 420. It wraps around and comes in from the front.

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Posted February 07, 2018 - 10:49 AM

Will you be adding stops to the front axle to prevent the cylinder from pushing/pulling too hard on the axle's rotation pivot (in the center of the tractor) ? The 4xx John Deere have such stops.

 

Have you had to cut anything out of the steering "A" frame?

 

I am also thinking about doing this modification some day but I will be looking if I can prevent pulling from the side of the tractor with the cylinder may be by using the original linkages (pulling/pushing where the steering box does) and/or installing the cylinder parallel to the front axle


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