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#1 Bill 76 ONLINE  

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Posted November 10, 2017 - 05:13 PM

I  had my snowplow sand blasted and primed it with rust oleum clean metal primer and then sprayed on massey red rust oleum tractor paint about two weeks ago , been kept in heated garage to dry now would like to roll on another coat to get more protection , went to get more paint and they no longer have rust oleum brand but instead have Valspar tractor paint I asked the kid working the paint department if they are compatible with each other his reply was they should be , well that answer is not good enough for me.Called Valspar they were no help. Anyone got any idea if the Valspar would be ok to put on over the rust  oleum I  already have on it. My brain says it might work but I have been wrong before.

I do believe they are both oil based enamel  

 

 



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Posted November 10, 2017 - 05:50 PM

Best idea is to try a tiny spot out of sight.  Don


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Posted November 10, 2017 - 05:58 PM

I have used Rustoleum for years and it has a bad habit of wrinkling if you don't wait long enough for it to fully dry. If you give it a second coat within 24 hours you are USUALLY okay but try it 2 - 3 days later and you could very well get wrinkles. If you waited a few weeks you will probable be okay. You should have no problem finding Rustoleum as most hardware and big box stores carry it. What ever you do don't put the second coat on to thick as it will pull the thinner out of the first coat and you will get wrinkles. As far as Valspar, if it is the same type of paint you probably won't have a problem as long as you wait long enough. I have sprayed other brands of paint of Rustoleum with no problem. They do make a sealer coat you can spray to stop wrinkling from happening but I have never seen it in a rattle can.

Now if your paint wrinkles I will denie everything I just said.


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Posted November 10, 2017 - 06:45 PM

Valspar is great paint, I use the tractor colors a lot.  I have also used the Rust. brands a lot. I've had the Rust brand wrinkle spraying on same kind and color. Not sure what was wrong, just maybe weather for day?  I never bought the new metal primer cause it's White, be hard to cover would think and I think primer should be grey anyway, not sure why.  Think best is to try the little in back corner or something as noted above.


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Posted November 10, 2017 - 06:54 PM

I won't use Valspar and Krylon is lacking! Valspar house paint sucks, takes several months to dry!


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Posted November 10, 2017 - 07:10 PM

NOOOO!!!! 

I have mixed and matched brands of paint before on various projects, and as long as there is no Rustoleum in the mix, I do ok or if I use all of their brand's products. ... but if I have a coat of any rustoleum, whether paint or primer,  and I don't finish out with Rustoleum, I get a wrinkled mess that I have to strip and start over. I hate re-do's.

Either use ALL  Rustoleum or NO Rustoleum.

 

I have always been told not to mix/match brands of paint, but that is the only brand that seems to matter when I try to. maybe if you wait til, say spring? or longer yet, you might be OK. but this soon afterwards, you better stick with what you started with.

 

Sherwin Williams recently bought out Valspar, so IDK what that will do to their quality for either company.

 

when it comes to Krylon, Rustoleum, etc., both seem to have branched out into a lot more specialties  than they used to have. I mean, clean metal, rusty metal, special paint for plastic, hammered, camo, and more. I wonder how much difference there really is between the mixes of a given brand and color?


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Posted November 10, 2017 - 08:52 PM

As with all paints you should use primer and paint of the same brand. If your shooting out of a can I think rust-oleum (Professional Grade) is king. Walmart sells this big can and can spray in any direction with more force than any spray can I've ever used covers well, and the price is right at four dollar's and change.
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Posted November 29, 2017 - 06:24 PM

UPDATE ON MY PAINT PROJECT

After trying to find another quart  rustoleum  implement paint in Massey red with no luck I picker up a can regular bright red rustoeum and compared the mssd charts to see if any difference in ingredients well low and behold their the same stuff.

The first coat was dry ( 2 weeks in a heated garage ) I rolled on the second coat to fill in some chip holes and it worked great , nice shine and on heavy . Done and mounted on the old K5 ready to push snow.

One thing I do find odd is they don't say paint on them anymore , they are now called coating , must be the government at work.   



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Posted November 30, 2017 - 07:56 AM

I think that rust oleum has a fish oil base, or at least they used to....



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Posted December 30, 2017 - 05:05 PM

I just painted my Power King tractor front wheels a couple of weeks ago using Rust oleum Professional enamel rattle can.  On the can of paint it says to recoat within an hour or you need to wait 48 hours otherwise the paint may wrinkle.

 

I hope the Rust oleum Professional rattle can works better than their regular rattle can paint.  I painted my headache rack for my old pickup with the regular version of rattle can and it faded in a couple of years.  I was using black paint.


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Posted December 30, 2017 - 05:34 PM

got some Valspar black appliance paint, supposed to be a really durable epoxy type of paint, and recoat times say "within an hour or after 2 weeks"  2 weeks REALLY?  I tried to put a 2nd coat after about 18 hours and yup it wrinkled, put it back in the blast cabinet and redid it, this time I said "screw it" with 1 coat.

(got it on the end of the clearance aisle so figured "why not try it"? since I tend to use a lot of black spray paint anyhow...  )

The most recent time that I used this paint, after blasting rusty/sooty parts (from a machine which had been in a barn fire) and then after priming with a Valspar brand primer (which said "recoat anytime")  I used this black appliance paint, I ran some of the pieces on a piece of EMT conduit set between 2 sawhorses and used zip strips to hang other parts from said piece of conduit, I went out the next day and rotated some of the parts so that I could hit what I missed initially, bare spots towards the top, and I KNOW that I overlapped some of what I'd done like 10 hours before as I hit the bare spots, and no shrivel and wrinkle this time. weird.  should be a good test for this paint being on a snow blower--a machine that runs in a wet cold environment.... brutal on expecting any paint job to hold up in the 1st place.






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