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Posted November 07, 2017 - 12:49 PM

is the much to gain in upsizing to a 55 series tractor from the 1650?  looking for expert opinions before i pull the trigger on another tractor.



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Posted November 07, 2017 - 01:57 PM

55 series tractors are overall larger. Twin Onans and shaft driven attachments. 55 series also have standard 26x12-12 rears and 18x8.50-8 fronts. I believe the 55 series is around 6" longer than the 50. The Massey 55 series also runs the Sundstrand hydro where as the 50 series has the Eaton hydro. I think that's more preference than anything. Both are equally as strong.

The 1650 is still a stout machine. Other than sheer size and little more power, you probably won't notice a difference. Just keep both so you can enjoy the pair.

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Posted November 07, 2017 - 09:14 PM

55 series also has 1" front spindles over the 50 series 3/4" spindles.  The 1" are almost a must for front end loaders.  I broke 2 before swapping my loader over to a 1655.


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Posted November 08, 2017 - 06:37 PM

I've been thinking about how much trouble it would be to swap a 1655/1855 front axle into a 1650. Doesn't seem like it would be too bad. The 55's are an upgrade but around here the price difference between to two is so outrageous the 55's are far from worth it. 1200/1450/1650's bring 500-800 typicallly in average condition, I've never seen a 55 series advertised for under 1800 no matter how rough it was, most are in the 2500-3000 range.


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Posted November 08, 2017 - 07:09 PM

I've been thinking about how much trouble it would be to swap a 1655/1855 front axle into a 1650. Doesn't seem like it would be too bad. The 55's are an upgrade but around here the price difference between to two is so outrageous the 55's are far from worth it. 1200/1450/1650's bring 500-800 typicallly in average condition, I've never seen a 55 series advertised for under 1800 no matter how rough it was, most are in the 2500-3000 range.

Harder than you might think to swap those out.  The 55 series have a very large hollow pivot pin that the front pto shaft runs through.  So it wouldn't be an easy swap by any means.


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Posted November 08, 2017 - 08:04 PM

Harder than you might think to swap those out. The 55 series have a very large hollow pivot pin that the front pto shaft runs through. So it wouldn't be an easy swap by any means.


I considered that and just figured it would be easy enough to put a bushing in it to get it down to 3/4” like what is on the 1650. Of course it wouldn’t be as strong as the 55 pivot but you’d still be gaining the 1” spindles and better front hub assemblies.


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Posted November 09, 2017 - 10:59 AM

I was going through front wheel bearings on 1650 at first and came up with this solution

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Posted November 09, 2017 - 11:02 AM

have not had any problems with this set up

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Posted November 09, 2017 - 11:09 AM

So back to my orginal question, it seems that the only advantage to getting a 1655 is the stronger front end and a little bigger tractor?  How about the drive shaft? both of my 1650's seem to eat up the splined shaft couplers.  On one of them I swapped out to a U-Joint set up that I got of a parts tractor and that seems to be holding up for now. Do the 55 series tractors have the same drive shaft arrangement?






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