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#1 Cribs1450 OFFLINE  

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Posted October 30, 2017 - 01:12 PM

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This is my first post, I've been a long time lurker,  I am sure there are other forums to this topic but figured this is the quickest way to get results.  I am at my wits end with replacing the rear axle seals for my 1450.  I will be ordering 2 new ones today from AGCO parts. which runs me about 65 CAD.  I am assuming the issue is when I install them they are getting ruined by the thread in which the wheel hub goes over on the axle.  IF there is any tips of the trade to help me stop this madness it would be greatly appreciated.

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Posted October 30, 2017 - 02:35 PM

Grease the axle and threads before sliding the tube back on. That’ll help save the seal during installation.


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Posted October 30, 2017 - 03:20 PM

$65 seem kind of high for 2 seals. BTW nice rear blade, they must be kind of rare!


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Posted October 30, 2017 - 04:05 PM

The Massey 1450 has a Peerless rear axle correct? I got the seals for my 1655 at Napa.

National seal 481792 [ 1.125 x 2.125 x 0.250 ]
This is the seal I used on my 1655. Number was provided by another member. Not sure of the 50 series axle size. You might check this out. Same seal for a lot less money than Agco.

Nice tractor btw.

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Posted October 30, 2017 - 04:06 PM

If you didn't order your seals yet, pull out an old one and bring it to a bearing supplier.  They will be able to match up the seal for much cheaper.  The axle seals for my Ford LGT are 16$can each.  Just trying to save a guy a buck!

 

Nice tractor! 


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Posted October 30, 2017 - 04:54 PM

Grease the axle and threads before sliding the tube back on. That’ll help save the seal during installation.


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Yep , Tried this the second time around.. Looks that the spring inside the rubber gets disturbed possibly.  Will try again though. Also saw in a thread that putting the seals inside a freezer for a few hours prior to installation could help!  


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Posted October 30, 2017 - 05:01 PM

$65 seem kind of high for 2 seals. BTW nice rear blade, they must be kind of rare!

Yes I thought so aswell.  If I bought state side I found the same size seals that were about 13 CAD from NAPA auto parts, but they are universal.  But at first I was looking to just purchase straight through AGCO dealer.  Also Thanks on the blade.  I was very fortunate with my setup as my PAPA was the head salesman at ADVANTAGE (Massey dealership in Essex County Ontario) so I was able to get the 1450 with front dozer blade, rear blade, tiller, about a 300 pound roller and a ground leveler when he passed.  This is one of the many reasons I am restoring everything in his memory!


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Posted October 30, 2017 - 05:09 PM

Put some grease on the garter spring, inside the lip of the seal. It helps keep it from bouncing off the rubber lip. Also, put something thin and hard over the threads, like a post card, or wrap it with tape. I have old microfiche cards. Thin plastic I wrap around things, then slide the seal over.
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Posted October 30, 2017 - 07:39 PM

Put some grease on the garter spring, inside the lip of the seal. It helps keep it from bouncing off the rubber lip. Also, put something thin and hard over the threads, like a post card, or wrap it with tape. I have old microfiche cards. Thin plastic I wrap around things, then slide the seal over.

I have not thought of doing this! thank you will try!



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Posted October 30, 2017 - 07:46 PM

If you didn't order your seals yet, pull out an old one and bring it to a bearing supplier.  They will be able to match up the seal for much cheaper.  The axle seals for my Ford LGT are 16$can each.  Just trying to save a guy a buck!

 

Nice tractor! 

I will have to search essex county , to my knowledge I do not know any "bearing supplier" in the area!


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Posted November 09, 2017 - 12:43 AM

$65 seem kind of high for 2 seals. BTW nice rear blade, they must be kind of rare!

picked up 2 for 38 $ CAD via Motion Canada .  should be in this week!


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