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#1 oldiron1 ONLINE  

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Posted October 19, 2017 - 09:49 AM

Hi Guys, the latest addition to our collection just came home yesterday; Shaw R12T with electric start. The engine dates to Dec, 1949 so my assumption is this would be a 1950 tractor. It's a little rough around the edges but overall a solid, nice driving R12T.

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Posted October 19, 2017 - 09:51 AM

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Posted October 19, 2017 - 11:20 AM

These look like a heavier built PK, I always thought. Tuff, easy to work on.
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Posted October 19, 2017 - 01:58 PM

I'd question if the engine is original to the tractor. Not the normal Shaw electrics I'm used to seeing but may be original. Maybe Cliff will chime in.


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Posted October 19, 2017 - 10:07 PM

Nice looking tractor.  The electrical system is original to the tractor.  The first design electrical system was an add on by Shaw that used old Ford parts.  The second design was furnished by Wisconsin and used battery ignition.  See the picture of my R12T like yours under R12T aerating the lawn.  Your battery box is not original.  Do you have any attachments?

 

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Posted October 20, 2017 - 08:58 AM

Thanks Guys!

 

I appreciate the info Cliff. I was questioning the battery box as well. I like the box setup though as it tucks up under the tank nicely. It was interesting looking this R12T over having a distributor as the only other one I had, had a magneto. I do like this electric start system incorporated by Wisconsin. 

 

Nope, the tractor didn't come with any attachments; just the tractor. 

 

Over what duration was the R12T produced? (1948-1953?)

 

Thanks again, Rob



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Posted October 20, 2017 - 09:34 AM

That is a nice tractor, nice find!what is that piece of pipe up over the pedals on that one?Also looks like a horn mounted under the tank on the left, is that an ad-on?
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Posted October 20, 2017 - 06:53 PM

R12T tractors were available from 1948 to 1962.

 

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Posted October 20, 2017 - 07:25 PM

I'll admit I like the Waterloo better, but wow is that sharp. Are the rear tires as good as they look? What size are they?
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Posted November 07, 2017 - 01:44 PM

That is a nice tractor, nice find!what is that piece of pipe up over the pedals on that one?Also looks like a horn mounted under the tank on the left, is that an ad-on?

 

Thanks! The clutch pedal is a bit unconventional on the Shaw riders. It's centered and if you're taller like me, you really have to use your heel to depress it. The previous owner must have at the same issue so he did a pretty creative job of making this pipe that slips over the clutch pedal that extends it both directions making it a lot easier to access. 

 

What I think you're seeing under the tank is the solenoid for the electric start. 



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Posted November 07, 2017 - 01:46 PM

R12T tractors were available from 1948 to 1962.

 

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Wow, I had no idea the R12T's were built over that long of a duration! I assumed just into the early 50's. That being said, wasn't the Wisconsin TF replaced in the mid 50's? Would there have been multiple 2 cylinder Wisconsin engines used in R12T's?



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Posted November 07, 2017 - 01:47 PM

I'll admit I like the Waterloo better, but wow is that sharp. Are the rear tires as good as they look? What size are they?

 

Thanks! Actually yes, the rear rims and tires are in great shape with no evidence of having fluid in them. The tires are a little over-sized at 9.5x24.

 

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Posted November 07, 2017 - 04:53 PM

I think the TF engines were replaced by the THD engines.  The last of the R12T tractors were rated at 18 horsepower.  The literature that I have on the later Shaw tractors does not  list the engine models, just the make and horsepower.

 

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Posted November 07, 2017 - 08:24 PM

Cliff, Thanks again for taking time out to show me your great Shaw collection Saturday, I learned a lot ! I wanted to ask, on the newer R12T's, up near the end of production, were there any changes made to them, or were they still the same ? I was wondering if they went to a 12 volt system on the later models.Also, were fenders an option on them, it looks like most you see don't have any....Ted.



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Posted November 07, 2017 - 08:34 PM

Rob, thanks for the reply, I see what you mean about the clutch pedal. The pedals look like they could be pretty slippery when wet or in snow, I think they should have used re-bar instead of that smooth round stock. Are you going to restore it or leave it as is? Those rear tires do look good on it. I like the way they did the exhaust stack !   Ted


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