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#1 dropped82 OFFLINE  

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Posted October 10, 2017 - 01:44 PM

Has the price of Kohlers made a jump recently?
https://indianapolis...6340394146.html

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Posted October 10, 2017 - 01:56 PM

I saw that this morning. I think the seller is a flipper, bet he paid lots less at an auction. Still I can't fault someone for trying to make a buck.



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Posted October 10, 2017 - 02:07 PM

Well you have to start somewhere and better high than low on CL..  The tractor runs, drives and cuts.  I don't think $600 is an unreasonable starting point.    Hey it got 16" tires in the rear!  (OK maybe the engine isn't worth $600)


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Posted October 10, 2017 - 05:24 PM

it would sell here for 600 easy not many around here


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Posted October 10, 2017 - 05:47 PM

Agreed, its a good starting point price wise for a big wheel case.  I have seen worse for that price at the Portland swap meet, which is this week BTW.  


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Posted October 10, 2017 - 06:06 PM

The rebuilt short block for a K341 is close to $1000 now so a running Kohler is getting a bit pricey. The swap meet I attended seemed to show prices are dropping on alot of things. Most of the dealers said that they aren't selling like they did last year. Good Luck, Rick



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Posted October 11, 2017 - 02:34 AM

The rebuilt short block for a K341 is close to $1000 now so a running Kohler is getting a bit pricey.

 

$1000? WOW The most I've had in 1 was just over $600 with alot of block and crank and head machining and all new internals but the cam. New valve guides and seats and valves ans springs and crank bearings and connecting rod,piston,rings and complete gasket set. But that was over 15 years ago.

 

Neighbor bought a complete very low hour M14 off of ebay 2 months ago for $450 + shipping. I had the head off of it and it looked like it might of had around 200 hours on it. It was advertised to have 232 hours on it.

 

I would say by the looks of that Case tractor that it has quite a few hours on it.  Alot of oil soaked dirt caked up below the breather assembly and down onto the frame. That's a bad sign if you see that much oily dirt around that spot. Means it either has alot of blow by or just 1 or both of the gaskets on the breather assembly is leaking.   

 

Here have a look. Looks like a kohler with a bunch of hours on it to me.  The points cover is missing to. Maybe he forgot to put it back on? One of the other pics he had the air filter off of it. I'm betting the tractor has problems and that's the reason he's trying to sell it.

 

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Posted October 11, 2017 - 07:12 AM

There is a site that I visited awhile ago. Send them your short block as a core and they send you a rebuilt one for about $1000 including the shipping. Seemed about right to me. I can rebuild a 350 Chevy for about $250 with a kit from Northern Auto Parts. I do all my own machining execept crank grinding(but I'm working on that).

I'm rebuilding a K301 with a kit from EPay that cost about $200(it is an old Sten's kit with the parts made in Tiawan). $1000 doesn't seem bad for the parts, machining, assembly, and insuring a rebuilt block. I am leary of the Chinese parts that have now flooded the market. Genuine Kohler parts are getting too expensive. I have two cases where the genuine Kohler pistons split. Good Luck, Rick

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Posted October 11, 2017 - 02:06 PM

The aftermarket rings in the Stens kits are horrible. I only got 3 years of Mowing duties out of a set in one of my old Cub Cadet engines that I rebuilt before the oil ring and scraper ring wore down and she started smoking again. 

 

I have a brand new set here sitting on my desk that when inserted into a near perfect STD bore cylinder,  the ring end gaps are so far out of whack that I decided to buy a NOS set of Kohler brand rings instead.

 

Compression ring measured out to .017.  Scraper ring is .26.  The 2 piece oil rings are .036 and .015. The scraper ring is Just under the max wear limit of .030 but one of the oil rings is not usable.   If you buy Stens rings make sure you measure your end gaps. 

 

Don't just pop them on and use them. I'm sure that if there are some that are to loose, there are going to be others that are to tight.  Rings that are to tight will shatter when the engine heats up and destroy the cylinder and possible cause other catastrophic engine failure.       



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Posted October 12, 2017 - 07:24 AM

That's a better price than this one:

https://tulsa.craigs...6318856723.html


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Posted October 12, 2017 - 08:37 PM

Wholly crap.... I'm gonna post mine in your area. I'll give you a commission.

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Posted October 13, 2017 - 04:58 AM

Wholly crap.... I'm gonna post mine in your area. I'll give you a commission.

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That's why I don't buy many down here! Folks think they are gold plated!



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Posted October 13, 2017 - 09:45 AM

Case are really expensive up here too.  Not just regionally but across canada.  I see case 44X machines for $2000+ all the time on kijiji, vs half that or less for any other GT.


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Posted October 14, 2017 - 06:39 PM

Case are really expensive up here too.  Not just regionally but across canada.  I see case 44X machines for $2000+ all the time on kijiji, vs half that or less for any other GT.

Like this one up around were I live.. crazy.  Or am I out of the loop?

https://www.kijiji.c...gationFlag=true






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