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Posted October 16, 2017 - 08:57 AM

Nope, not electric.  I'll try to remember to get some photos...



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Posted October 16, 2017 - 11:10 AM

Not home yet, but you can see the cable just below the top threaded linkage (red) in the photo from the rear, and the other end of that cable attaches to a lever/arm under the chassis, which can be seen in the side view, hanging down.

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Posted October 16, 2017 - 11:18 AM

As seen here, this view has the solid bar.  Mine, instead, is on the other side (right side when sitting on tractor) and is a cable instead.

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Posted October 16, 2017 - 11:58 AM

The cable is not original someone has modified the lift and used a cable.that cable setup will never work right to get it to work better it needs to be connected to one of the 3 pt lift arms, actually the rod is needed and it connects to the fork arms on the pivot shaft then it would work good.


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Posted October 18, 2017 - 04:26 AM

Finally got some photos of the setup.

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Posted October 18, 2017 - 11:03 PM

Never seen or heard of that. Doesn't this have twin hydraulics? One for front and deck, one for 3pt? Also, that PTO not connected? Might as well pull off what is there.

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Posted October 19, 2017 - 05:26 AM

glgrumpy, not sure what you mean by twin hydraulics.  I haven't had the mowing deck on yet, so I'm not sure exactly what it connects to.  My initial assumption was that it connected (hung from chain) to the end of the arm that the ram is moving, below where the cable is attached.

 

There is a separate set of hydraulic valves for the front snow blower, but that's all I see besides the hydro drive. 

 

The rear PTO is not connected (shaft is removed).  I do have the shaft though.  Looks like the only thing to be removed would be the rear bearing block?  Not much of an issue leaving it there so long as it doesn't start getting rusty.


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Posted October 19, 2017 - 10:57 AM

Ok,you have two hydraulic levers in dash? Dual hydraulics then. If you have two ports out front, for blade say, one would lift, other turn. Not sure why blower needs two. One lever runs a cylinder below and one front port. Other runs second cylinder and other port. I'm going by my tractor, little newer. Suppose older one may not have same system. Still kinda thinking you have one cylinder missing, or has been moved to other side to make things work off one, not original. Should get parts manual for tractor and study.

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Posted October 19, 2017 - 11:03 AM

glgrumpy, 3 hyd levers on dash.  (sort of).  1 for blower lift/lower, 1 for blower left/right cylinder, and 1 for the mower (I assume) which is also the 3pt hitch.  The levers can be seen in the photos, as well as the 2 cylinders for the blower. 

 

Also, I've studied the manual a little, and the only thing that seems "off" on mine is the cylinder that moves the hitch up and down appears to be on the wring side.  Not sure if this is from the factory or not, but it doesn't appear to be a home-job, if you know what I mean...

 

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Posted October 19, 2017 - 11:05 AM

glgrumpy, would you be able to get a photo of how yours is setup?



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Posted October 19, 2017 - 11:08 AM

I did notice that there is a 2nd hole in the connection arm to allow more advantage to be able to lift more weight in the hitch, at the expense of less travel.  Not sure if I'll swap it yet...



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Posted October 21, 2017 - 03:59 PM

My lift arm has couple diff holes to put pins in, but never had much luck at figuring the diff and tried some. My quick-hitch with broom and the deck are noted which hole to use in instructions, but again, not much diff that I can tell. Mine is not dual hydraulics, DO have one in rebuild out in garage, just setting. Was trying to figure out all the hose routes putting together again. Seems a nightmare. That one is dual control. Not sure I can get in there to see it now, winter jamb you know, have to get truck in garage, heh!  My rear lift cylinders are on the left, not on right like yours. Think with dual control, there may be a diff rock shaft that has two sections all on one pivot to operate seperate, have to look at parts book again. Yours is a little earlier, so maybe they made changes. Both of mine are later 3pc hood models, late 90's.


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Posted October 21, 2017 - 05:58 PM

Well, went out to look better and FIND....I'm FOS, hard to believe! :D  Both my tractors have the lift cylinder on right underneath. ONE thing I didn't remember is the second one on my dual system is actually attached to frame on same block in back of cylinder and goes out to back rockshaft. The front cylinders are same between mine and go to rockshaft in middle of frame and on other side is similar mount where the big bar for 3pt lift is. I don't have the 3pt on the dual set-up, so not sure if other rear cylinder went to hitch by itself with no bar, can't recall now. Have to study parts books again. I took some pictures, best I could do with it jambed in garage for winter. This is the UT620. My other one which drives is a Snapper, but is same as PK.  I took them with phone, so will be a bit before I can get them on here. Hope you can see what I have and compare. Maybe yours is all correct, just have not seen a cable set-up before. I also took shots of front pto. Dual tractor has the shaft built in and the rear comes off that, not on at moment. I only got part of the rear hanger and shaft, no connector shaft with it. The other running one has a quik-tach system that hangs off blade mounts, LOOKS, just like the other one, but not on frame. This quick tach is needed to mount my brush and the blade I have. Brush runs off front of shaft, I don't have rear pto set-up on this one.


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Posted October 21, 2017 - 06:05 PM

First, the runner I use.

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Posted October 21, 2017 - 06:11 PM

Now the dual control one, not together yet. Just chassis. No 3pt mounted yet, or dash.

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