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#1 Triffid1990 OFFLINE  

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Posted September 11, 2017 - 02:43 PM

Found this one in the blackberries.  Articulated tractor (hinge under the seat), Wards engine, disk plow was made by E.B. Moritz Foundry of Santa Ana, California - which makes me think it is SoCal manufactured.  Had a lot of hydraulics on it.  I've taken off the plows and have found that it only takes a finger under the seat to tip the whole thing over...the plows doubled as a counterweight.  Unique steering I have not seen before

 

Any ideas

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Posted September 11, 2017 - 07:29 PM

Welcome to GTT. That looks to be a homemade tractor or a modified walkbehind. Either way it is very cool. Put a cap on that powersteering pump. The sooner you drain any water out of the hydraulic system, the better. Please post more pics to better identify the components. The engine is a Wisconsin with a PTO clutch set up. That is real nice. The back actually looks like a sulky from a walkbehind tractor. Good Luck, Rick


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Posted September 11, 2017 - 10:41 PM

Another pic with the seat, steering column and hydraulic levers removed. Definitely an odd steering mechanism. Looking at Dave Baas book, it's possibly a modified Nichols Tractor. I'll be pulling the wheel weights and fenders tomorrow night.

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Posted September 12, 2017 - 03:14 AM

Welcome to GTTalk. 



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Posted September 12, 2017 - 04:34 AM

Its factory built. 

There is one just like it at some of the local shows.

I can't remember the name but I thought it was embossed on the front drive.  [under your battery box]


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Posted September 12, 2017 - 05:22 AM

Welcome to GTTalk !!  I was thinking it was home-made too . Hope you find more info and post it



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Posted September 12, 2017 - 09:31 AM

That is a Pacific tractor. I'd like to have the serial number if you don't mind. We've been trying to determine the number built. You will find the number here:  pacificnum.jpg

 

It's on the right side under the front engine mount.    pacificnumberloc.jpg


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Posted September 12, 2017 - 09:38 AM

Some more pictures of a Pacific tractor. they all seem to have the same steering wheel that looks to be from an old car. Originally these had a hand pump for the hydraulics.

 

pacific4.JPG                      pacific3.JPG

 

 

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Posted September 12, 2017 - 11:50 AM

Thanks Doug, it is definitely a match.  I'll look for the serial number tonight and let you know what i find.  Mine has a Wards Engine on it, does yours?    Duane



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Posted September 12, 2017 - 01:43 PM

Mine doesn't have the Wards tag but some do. We also found evidence that some were sold through Wards. If I get some extra time, i'll look and see if I can find it.



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Posted September 12, 2017 - 06:10 PM

I saw one of those on the side of a backwoods road last summer and tried to figure out what it was ! Good info !


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Posted September 13, 2017 - 09:23 PM

Stripped the paint where the serial number should be, nothing there.  Although comparing your photo to mine, the welding on yours looks great while mine looks like it was repaired.  I put some stripper on the rest of the frame to see if the number is hiding somewhere else.

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Posted September 14, 2017 - 04:12 PM

I've been doing a little digging on the Pacific Iron and Machine Co. of San Diego. 

 

Owned by Robert R Jones and Estal Render Bourne, the company first appeared in the San Diego City Directory in 1950, located at 3105 Hancock (the building still exists). The 1952 Directory notes that the company is "machy mfrs" while the 1953-54 Directory states they are "steel fabricators."

 

Tracing each owner backwards, Jones, in 1942, was manager of the Motor Hardware & Equipment Company while Bourne was an aircraft worker for CACorp.  in the 1944-45 Directory, both men are listed as owners of the Pacific Tool & Die Company located at 917 University Ave - R.R. Potter was the 3rd owner. 

 

Estal Bourne is credited with patent (#1,707,456, dated April 2, 1929, originally filed May 20, 1926. for a 'Pipe Threading Means"  You can search for this on the Google Patents website.

 

I'll add more to this post as i find it.

 


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Posted September 14, 2017 - 04:53 PM

That is a Pacific tractor. I'd like to have the serial number if you don't mind. We've been trying to determine the number built. You will find the number here:  attachicon.gifpacificnum.jpg

 

It's on the right side under the front engine mount.    attachicon.gifpacificnumberloc.jpg

What is the number so far ?



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Posted September 14, 2017 - 10:40 PM

What is the number so far ?

I've only started to collect info the last year or so. There aren't a lot of these tractors out there so finding numbers isn't easy. So far I've got 5 numbers. the lowest is 113 and the highest is 512. They all have an H prefix. An interesting note is that 3 numbers are in the 100s and 2 in the 500s nothing in between so far. I was hoping to add this number to the list but for now I'll have to list it as a verified tractor without a number. From talking with some of the guys on the west coast there may only be somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 of these even known at this time.


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