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#1 71mustangman ONLINE  

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Posted August 21, 2017 - 12:53 AM

Hi there my buddy just bought an Ariens gt 17 he brought it home sat used it for 20 minutes then the front pto would not engage. Belts where not turning so I figure its electrical. The front coil in the clutch is not firing. I am thinking PTO switch, bad wire, bad connection, no voltage at the coil, could that issue have anything to do with the interlocking system? time delay switch. (3 wires red black yellow coming out of a round metal can) how do you test the time delay switch. Thanks mustangman

     



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Posted August 21, 2017 - 12:17 PM

Yup. That's Ariens weak point their expensive overcomplicated interlock system. I have 2 here that I have to rewire from scratch since I refuse to pay $400+ for a replacement module.

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Posted August 21, 2017 - 12:27 PM

Run a jumper wore from the battery to the clutch to double check that before the tearing into the interlock.

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Posted August 21, 2017 - 05:25 PM

400.00 dollars for a small tiny module with three wires coming out of it?



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Posted August 21, 2017 - 05:26 PM

Yea that's what is was thinking. I will trouble shoot it first maybe its just a switch. Thanks  



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Posted August 21, 2017 - 07:31 PM

yup..... and IDK when "new" or "old" cutoff was but if you have the "old" system you have to upgrade to the new system as this series of machines goes, and at last check, it was $435.  Look for posts by Wm McNett here where he built a module to replace the one with 3 wires... I have a '72 here that I am gonna make replicas of the wiring harness from for my '77 S16H and my '86 GT19. remember... K I S S   and that these machines DO take some mental input and common sense to keep yourself safe, with or without the idiot proof crap that they added to these machines.



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Posted August 22, 2017 - 07:08 AM

Also check the air gap in the clutch.Mine would run then if you shut it off it would take a period of time to cool down the it would re-engage fine just a thought

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Posted August 22, 2017 - 06:23 PM

ok thanks for input up date I went to my buddys house today to work on the gt 17. so he told me he removed the two fuses and reinstalled them. Then the tractor started right up. so I then started to wiggle the wiring behind the dash and the tractor died. So I determine it was a bad fuse holder we replaced the fuse holder and fuse. tractor started up then  engaged the front pto it work. He mowed the lawn for 20 minutes. Then shut the tractor down and tried to start it. The tractor started but the front pto did not come on. So I started to wiggle the wiring again behind dash and the tractor stalled and started. Also the front pto would engage then it would not. I noticed a lot of corrosion on all the terminals. its just all messed up. so it still has the same problem. I am going back to his house and trouble shoot more. Thanks mustangman        



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Posted August 22, 2017 - 06:25 PM

interesting I will need to check that. so your clutch would not come on at all due the air gap setting after running it for awhile? did you have 12 volts at the clutch at all times? Thanks mustangman



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Posted August 22, 2017 - 06:27 PM

Yes common sense is a must around any kind power equipment



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Posted September 04, 2017 - 02:17 PM

400.00 dollars for a small tiny module with three wires coming out of it?


Make your own for a few bucks. Search this forum for detailed instructions. Mine has been working great for a few years now. Mouser Electronics has everything you need including a nice case for your circuit board.

Edited by artbuc, September 04, 2017 - 02:35 PM.


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Posted September 06, 2017 - 09:57 PM

ok up date clutch is working fine just needed adjustment. I replace one fuse holder and clean up a bunch of corroded connections. I also replaced some of the wiring. The fuse holder was bad I would touch the fuse holder and the tractor would stall and recover. Thanks mustangman


Edited by 71mustangman, September 06, 2017 - 09:59 PM.





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