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I saw a B 207E Allis chalmers today,


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#1 propane1 OFFLINE  

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Posted August 15, 2017 - 08:46 PM

Sorry no pictures, but this guy is fixing it up and gunna use it as a trailer hauler. Not all back together yet. Paint colour is not right, but who would know. Has a decal kit coming for it. Rear end looks a lot like a MF 7 rear end. But not quite the same. What I can't figure out is,,, the engine has horizontal pulleys and the transmission has vertical pulleys. How dose it drive ? Remember, it's not all together so I can't see how it's driven or how a clutch works.
Any way, just something for discussion. Never seen one before.

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Looks like this one,

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Posted August 15, 2017 - 10:01 PM

The belts are twisted, i got a GTV 18 and you should see twists in its drive belt, two vertical pulleys at 90 degree angle lol,(just want the engine out of it)

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Posted August 16, 2017 - 08:56 PM

Sorry no pictures, but this guy is fixing it up and gunna use it as a trailer hauler. Not all back together yet. Paint colour is not right, but who would know. Has a decal kit coming for it. Rear end looks a lot like a MF 7 rear end. But not quite the same. What I can't figure out is,,, the engine has horizontal pulleys and the transmission has vertical pulleys. How dose it drive ? Remember, it's not all together so I can't see how it's driven or how a clutch works.
Any way, just something for discussion. Never seen one before.

Noel

Looks like this one,

I have one of those only with the flat hood.   pics tomorrow.    

I have the mower deck for mine but it is missing the lift arm and brackets.       Rick


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Posted August 17, 2017 - 11:22 AM

I have one of those only with the flat hood.   pics tomorrow.    

I have the mower deck for mine but it is missing the lift arm and brackets.       Rick

Pics as promised.  The starter generator is almost as large as the engine.

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Posted August 17, 2017 - 02:33 PM

Looks great, and ya, the starter / generator is big. So no float in front axle , so where does it float to keep all wheels on ground. Front axle is welded to frame.

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Posted August 17, 2017 - 03:26 PM

The body twists right in front of the shifter, I have two to make one out of, mine are a little older and are called 717 sovereign. The oblong hole to the right of shifter is for hi-low and is achieved through a gear set on the right side drive wheel separate from trany, very unique

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Posted August 21, 2017 - 02:11 PM

I have a B-208 that I use regularly...same as a 207 but with an extra pony under the hood.  They are great little machines.  They use a peerless transmission, which is why it probably looks like what you have seen.  The Simplicity equivalents used a Simplicity transmission, but by 68 when these 207s came into production, the govn't had Allis building machines in their own building, with slight variations due to anti-trust laws (Allis owned Simplicity at the time).  

 

The Simplicity 717 was a Broadmoor model.  The Sovereigns were the full size large frame garden tractors with horizontal shaft engine.


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Posted August 21, 2017 - 05:27 PM

[quote name="Talntedmrgreen" post="788479" timestamp="1503342711"

The Simplicity 717 was a Broadmoor model. The Sovereigns were the full size large frame garden tractors with horizontal shaft engine.[/quote] yep i called my broadmoor's sovereign's by accident, this site has no mercy for the elderly memory lol, still batting 50/50 on my post so at least I'm not losing ground (yet) not sure why I'm having quoteing problem's all of a sudden though

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