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#1 lyall ONLINE  

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Posted August 07, 2017 - 09:41 PM

got a 214 with a 14 hp motor early summer for $200.  it was smoking real bad.  finally got time to check the motor over.

pulled the piston and the rings were within a 1/2" gap of each other.  checked the cylinder over and it was 0.004 over sized.  so I brought a overhaul kit with +0.010 piston, rings, and rod.  I like replacing the rod each time I replace the pistons.

There is a motor cycle shop here in town.  He honed out a 210 motor ( 10 hp) last month for me, he had to hone it out 0.003 for the +0.10 piston I got for it.  He charged me $20 for honing.  So I drop it off for him to work in it.  Stopped back a few days later and he said that his shoulder is hurting,  So I said if I hone it out and asked if he would check the measurements, would that be okay.  He said okay.  The next morning I was honed out the cylinder.  One hour later I was done.  He checked from time to time how it was going and measure the cylinder to see how much I did.  The final check I was 0.0005 over the  3.510 I was trying for.  I was tired and my shoulder was hurting a little from hold onto the 1/2 drive drill.

I asked what the damages were and he said $20.

Got the motor all cleaned up and putting it back together. 
Should have it back in the 214 tomorrow.


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Posted August 17, 2017 - 09:24 PM

motor it back in the garden tractor, but having a bad time with the wiring.

Had a little spark on the negative side of the battery and now it will not turn over.

battery is still good, tried it in a different 214 and starts up okay.

checked the solenoid - good, checked starter - good, checked starter switch - good, checked voltage regulator - good.

checked both safety switches - both good.

it acts like there is a short someplace or the fuse is bad.  But I check it, it checks okay.

removed the wiring harness and check it over - checks okay , but I did replace all of  the wiring.

all should be good, but it should does not start.

checked the wiring with an ohm meter and all checks okay.

I have rebuild several wiring harness ( over 20) and have not had any problem.  But this is driving me mad.

I checked my other 214 to see if there is anything different that I am missing -and it acts the same, checking it over with the ohm meter.

I will start checking it over and start again 

I will figure it out one of these days


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Posted August 17, 2017 - 09:40 PM

That sucks, hope you get it traced down.
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Posted August 27, 2017 - 07:39 PM

I've been bit too many times by the clamp-to-wire joint.

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Posted August 27, 2017 - 08:36 PM

I've been bit too many times by the clamp-to-wire joint.

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I try to use shrink tubing on most of the wire connectors, so I do not have any bear wire showing.

 

I have been checking all the connection and all check okay.

Pulled the motor and pulled the stator and checked it over and it acts okay.

Pulled the starter and took it apart and clean and checked it over.

solenoid checked it with a battery charger and it clicks.

then I used a 12 volt transformer with my multi-meter to see if I am getting 12 volts across the large post and it is.

 

checked the voltage regulator against one on different 214 and it acts the same.

put the voltage regulator on other 214 and it works okay

 

the fuse checks okay on the multi-meter but need to check to see it stops working when trying to start .

at times it would be nice to have a third hand, but I will just have to use connectors on the multi-meter to check the fuse out over a load

 

now I need some time to get it put back together and see what happens


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Posted September 04, 2017 - 08:03 PM

been checking the wiring over - wiring is good.

checked the solenoid again - it is good

all looks good - but I still have a short someplace.

 

tried starting it with the battery charge and it started.  Unplugged the charger and looked at the charger gauge and it was showing around 5.5 amps.  Pull the charger wires off the battery and the motor stopped.

 

checked with the multi-meter and still looks like a short someplace.

pulled the point cover and check the height of the points and the depth of the point cover.

looks a little close to me.

check the height of the points and checked some old and new points that I have on hand and they are about the the some height.

 

put the points back in with out the point cover on.

tried starting and it started and runs okay.

put the point cover back on and it will not start.

pulled the point cover again and checked the point cover gasket.  looks good - it was a new one I got with the overhaul kit.

found some thick cork gasket material and make a new point cover gasket.

put in on and the point cover and tried starting and it runs okay now.

 

I have been fighting this problem for days and to find out that the point cover was shorting out the system.

Who would have thought that that was the problem.

 

Starts easily and runs great now.



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Posted September 04, 2017 - 08:39 PM

Sounds almost like the 216 I have, When I got it last year it had a short, traced it to the spring in the points grounding out. 


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Posted October 31, 2017 - 08:22 PM

had the 214 out mower a couple weeks ago and it was blowing oil out the governor shaft.

took it apart and checked the governor shaft and it looks okay. 

So thinking a for awhile too myself and come up with the idea of a o-ring on the governor shaft.

Since  had the bushing to look the the shaft I put the o-ring on the shaft and put the bushing back in and set the governor per manual.

Drive it around for a while and there is not a leak not on the governor shaft.

so look at the yard and it needed mowing, so I mowed the yard. 

Checked oil after 2 hours of mowing and the oil level is still at full on the dip stick and no oil leak.


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