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Posted August 08, 2017 - 02:24 PM

Briggs parts manual shows the head (Item 5) as 212996

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Posted August 08, 2017 - 02:28 PM

Found "212996" on ebay and the online briggs resources shows it as NLA.

 

http://www.ebay.com/...qkAAOSw4A5Ys03S

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Posted August 12, 2017 - 02:52 PM

Yanked the carb and gave it a good cleaning today.  Imagine my disappointment when I saw the mark of the beast on it - "Walbro"

 

It looks like the carb was drained before being parked.  There was no crud or varnish inside the carb.  I also believe the carb was never previously touched as the original Deere "Blitz Black" paint overspray was on the bowl and the body.  I am going to get the parts to try to revive this one as it is a really nice machine.  Pics later



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Posted August 12, 2017 - 04:16 PM

Here are pics of today's work.  You can see it cleaned right up.  Now I need to get the head, gasket, and bolts to see if it will run.  It is runs I am going to fix it up and put it to work.   

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Posted August 12, 2017 - 07:36 PM

I pulled the trigger on the used head on eBay for $14.99. Now I need head bolts and gasket.

 

 

93772 or 93111 - 7/8" head bolts

270836 - head gasket 

 

 

93111 is replace with 691640


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Posted August 13, 2017 - 03:32 PM

For future reference 

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Posted August 15, 2017 - 12:37 PM

I just junked out a mower like that like 2 weeks or so before you started the thread here. The self propelled mechanism was missing pieces, the gas tank leaked and I don't have any like it here, and just wasn't happy with the deal my kid made "for me".... This clapped out machine and another Deere push mower +$20 he got in trade for a 1 ton capacity cherry picker that I had (but was only rated for 500 lb with boom extended) as I got a heavier duty one in place of.... 500 lb cap. isn't enough for an iron V8 or a balky inline 6 especially when you get to shaking and bouncing it around to line things up.... Both mowers were total junk besides not being side discharge.... I hate rear baggers. So I junked both mowers.

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Posted August 16, 2017 - 03:12 PM

If those were s

 

I just junked out a mower like that like 2 weeks or so before you started the thread here. The self propelled mechanism was missing pieces, the gas tank leaked and I don't have any like it here, and just wasn't happy with the deal my kid made "for me".... This clapped out machine and another Deere push mower +$20 he got in trade for a 1 ton capacity cherry picker that I had (but was only rated for 500 lb with boom extended) as I got a heavier duty one in place of.... 500 lb cap. isn't enough for an iron V8 or a balky inline 6 especially when you get to shaking and bouncing it around to line things up.... Both mowers were total junk besides not being side discharge.... I hate rear baggers. So I junked both mowers.

 

If those were the silver stamped steel decks I think you did OK to send them on.  Between being aluminum and side discharge I see some worth in it.  Also, I do like my green stuff.  It's my problem and I am totally OK with it.  I am actually happy this has a Briggs on it too.  It seems most of these were sold with the Kawasaki engines and this one seems rather odd. 



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Posted August 16, 2017 - 04:14 PM

I have a Silver deck mower!


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Posted August 16, 2017 - 05:11 PM

yup one of them was a silver deck, the other was green, under the nasty purple that someone covered it with.... and where the purple had worn/peeled away

 

when I was a teen I had a "John Deere"  Toro Whirlwind.  Identical in every way to the regular Toro except for color and branding. I actually miss that machine. it was a 3hp Tec,  and cut a 19" swipe. about a 1969-70 model.


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Posted August 16, 2017 - 06:03 PM

So the head arrived and it looks like the correct one when I held it in place.  While doing that I found the problem and why it was pulled out of service - another Briggs with a dropped intake valve seat.  Any suggestions how to take care of the valve seat?

At this point I am out nothing but time and a bit of money if I try to get it going.  Still need head bolts and a gasket to put it back together.  I also know I can part it and make my money back and then some.  



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Posted August 16, 2017 - 06:22 PM

You can see the seat and open valve here.

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Posted August 16, 2017 - 10:04 PM

Did some digging online and I found some "hacks" for reinstalling the seat that I am going to try.  


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Posted August 17, 2017 - 03:16 PM

Carved a bit of time out this afternoon to mess with this one.  Continuing the teardown of the engine to do the valve seat repair.  Pulling the flywheel even with the Briggs puller is a bit of a challenge.  I have soaked the crank down with PBblaster and will let it sit with tension on it for a while.  The head from ebay looks great too.  


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Posted August 17, 2017 - 04:17 PM

Here is a better shot of the valve and seat. Also cleaned up the head.  There is a fair amount of white overspray on the head from the previous application.  I will try to strip it down to bare metal before it goes back on. Also removed the muffler and it seems pretty solid but is fairly rusty.  It will get cleaned and coated with Deere Muffler Black paint.

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