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#1 Bterrier OFFLINE  

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Posted July 26, 2017 - 03:52 PM

At the beginning of this summer, I was searching for a garden tractor and ended up purchasing a cub cadet zero turn mower instead. Found a great deal on it.

Now I am again in the search for a garden tractor. I have found 2 locally.....an MF12G and a simplicity 7016h.

I need some assistance comparing the 2 models. Which can tow/haul more weight? Can either of these accept a FEL? I believe the simplicity has a 3 pt hitch with rear pro. Not sure about the Massey

Does the 4hp make a huge difference?

Don't need this for mowing. Would be used for moving material, tilling, plowing, raking, grading, etc

Also, what is the difference between an MF12 and mf12g

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Posted July 26, 2017 - 04:01 PM

An MF12G is a gear tractor. Not sure if the 7016H will accept a loader!


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Posted July 26, 2017 - 04:10 PM

An MF12G is a gear tractor. Not sure if the 7016H will accept a loader!


Thanks! Also forgot to mention that I have the option of a 7016 6 speed as well.

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Posted July 26, 2017 - 04:19 PM

I took the AC version of the 716/6-speed and made it a hydro. I really don't see enough frame there for a loader!



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Posted July 26, 2017 - 04:54 PM

They were both good tractors. I would favor the Simplicity because they and their attachments are plentifull. There was one on CL in Danielson with 5 attachments for $600 last week. I picked up a 10hp model with rotted deck for free a few weeks ago. The horse power will only make a small difference. Download the owners manuals for both tractors from our Manuals Section and compare them. Also look at www.SimpleTractors.com.

Don't try to add a FEL to a GT. It is way too much work. There are plenty of GTs with factory FELs around CT. Be patient and look for one of them. Good Luck, Rick

Here is a good example of what to look for: https://tampa.craigs...6235187454.html If this was near me, I'd be there.

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Posted July 26, 2017 - 05:47 PM

The 16 horse Briggs single is known to be one of the most reliable engines ever offered in lawn garden equipment and has gobs of torque. I would take that over any motor short of a V-twin. Not really familiar with the Massey model but the simplicity has a proprietary hitch and the lift system for their attachments. Some people mistakenly call a three point hitch but it is not what you would imagine when you picture a three-point hitch on a farm tractor or compact tractor. It is extremely simple to use and very effective. As mentioned the implements are very easy to find in relatively inexpensive.

What are you looking to do with the machine?
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Posted July 27, 2017 - 08:25 AM

I have a Simplicity 7016 hydro, I use it for mowing and tilling the garden, it might support a loader if you make a heavy sub frame that runs underneath . I had a Ford LGT165 with loader and backhoe, I stole it for $250, that old garden tractor was in very rough shape, I patched it together many times over, I even had to build new heavier front spindles because the originals couldn't hold the weight. I had the garden tractor pulled apart welding together the frame when I found a super cheap Kubota L2000 with loader so I switch the backhoe onto it. If you are really wanting a garden tractor with a loader you might have to wait for something bigger to come along, I have a Bolens HT23, that would work great with a loader or a similar sized garden tractor. Or pending on the money you have to spend, a compact tractor would be the best, I have a Bolens G152 diesel and like I said above I also have a Kubota L2000.

 

Good luck on whatever you get and have fun! :rocker2:

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Posted July 27, 2017 - 03:17 PM

Thanks for everyone's help! I am leaning towards the simplicity.

In the meantime, I found a cub cadet 129 for about $100. Can anyone tell me how to tell if this has rear lift by looking at it? I am under the impression that it needs to have rear lift for attachments.

They say it runs but stalls. Don't think it should be too hard of a fix

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Posted July 27, 2017 - 03:47 PM

There is an attachment that can be added to the CC for rear lift. They tend to be alittle scarce but there was one on CL about a month ago. A CC for $100 that runs is a steal. When you need info, go to the Manuals Section. Good Luck, Rick


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Posted July 27, 2017 - 05:48 PM

Thanks for everyone's help! I am leaning towards the simplicity.

In the meantime, I found a cub cadet 129 for about $100. Can anyone tell me how to tell if this has rear lift by looking at it? I am under the impression that it needs to have rear lift for attachments.

They say it runs but stalls. Don't think it should be too hard of a fix

The 129 is a hydro transmission but a manual lift for any attachment.  They are a very well built tractor.  I have a 149 with a FEL and a hydro lift.  They didn't come with a 3pt. hitch but they did come with a sleeve hitch.

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The large pin in the up middle of the picture is the sleeve part of the hitch.  The white u-shape bracket helps you attach plows and other attachment so it kind of works like a 3 pt..   

I hope this helps.


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