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#1 Rocking416 OFFLINE  

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Posted June 20, 2011 - 06:54 PM

Ok i am not trying to open up a can of works but i was just doing a web search and Google pulled up 2 other Forums i wont mention names but back to the point i was banned for life from. I think it is so petty and narcissistic to Ban a user from a Forum. I mean arent we all on here to Share are love or tractors? Just because somone says somthing you may not like does that give you the right to BAN Them from the forum with Usful information about your tractors I think any moderator who sits on that high of a horse that cant take what somone else has to say that much to heart is suffering from a severe case of malignant narcissism and must not have much of a personal life and the only thrill they get is hidding behind there computer and banning people who says things they dont like. Maybe they banned me because my tractors are better than theres Can anyone relate to what im saying?

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Posted June 20, 2011 - 07:01 PM

I agree completely. It is easy to ban people you never met in real, and many times the people in the power positions are self serving, therefore they will do whatever it takes to stay there, even if it means banning someone they see as a threat to their position. I dealt with that on one of those forums, as I was one of this guys threats, therefore I was banned. There is a term that applies to these people, "internet bullies." I am just glad to have found my way to GTTalk, great group of guys and an administration staff that is all for having a good time and picking on each other, and love getting picked on back. They know the rules of give and take, and George can take as much crap as he gives, you just gotta watch him, he is sharp lol.

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Posted June 20, 2011 - 07:09 PM

Yea the thing was The losers who banned me i was at a show with them when they wasent so big and they made sure my tractor was in there weack parade Then they ban me cause i told this hunched over tobacco chewing yokel what i thought of him. Its like get over it he was the one telling other members about price gouging and tractors shouldent be so expensive then this man turns around and tractor people gave him he marked up the price and when he got called on it he dident like it. I think he was kinda Slow anyway Reminded me of Karl from sling blade anyway Guess he wasent raised in a house must of sat around out there in the shed tinkerd around with a lawn mower or two


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Posted June 20, 2011 - 07:20 PM

Matches exactly what I said. He had an agenda and yours didn't match his so he wanted you gone. I have gone through this crap at work. It is disappointing and you just hope that what goes around will really come around to them.

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Posted June 20, 2011 - 07:23 PM

Ive delt with it at work but Im kinda got an edge over some 7+ years experience and A.S.E Certifications and i dont talk about what i can do i let the other guy do that and i finish the job

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Posted June 20, 2011 - 07:33 PM

That is the best way to do it, when I left my inventory position due to differences of opinion the production lines have never been stocked well since, but I wouldn't go back.

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Posted June 20, 2011 - 07:59 PM

Here is my stance on the subject. I don't know and can't control what decisions or what happened on "the other forums" and honestly it doesn't matter to me, this site is what matters to me. What I can tell you is that we are fairly laid back here with no cliques or special groups. However insults, abusive and degrading comments will lead to a permanent ban. We are all here for the fun of it and for help when we need it with our garden tractors. Everyone is welcome to their own opinions and voicing them as long as it doesn't go against the things we will not allow which is already mentioned.
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Posted June 20, 2011 - 09:24 PM

..... insults, abusive and degrading comments will lead to a permanent ban. We are all here for the fun of it and for help when we need it with our garden tractors. Everyone is welcome to their own opinions and voicing them as long as it doesn't go against the things we will not allow which is already mentioned.

I sure do agree with this statement.
I was on a forum once that had very little if any moderation at all.
It could get very nasty very quickly.
I didn't stay there long.

Edited by jdcrawler, June 20, 2011 - 09:42 PM.


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Posted June 30, 2011 - 07:50 AM

Ok i am not trying to open up a can of works but i was just doing a web search and Google pulled up 2 other Forums i wont mention names but back to the point i was banned for life from. I think it is so petty and narcissistic to Ban a user from a Forum. I mean arent we all on here to Share are love or tractors? Just because somone says somthing you may not like does that give you the right to BAN Them from the forum with Usful information about your tractors I think any moderator who sits on that high of a horse that cant take what somone else has to say that much to heart is suffering from a severe case of malignant narcissism and must not have much of a personal life and the only thrill they get is hidding behind there computer and banning people who says things they dont like. Maybe they banned me because my tractors are better than theres Can anyone relate to what im saying?


In any dispute, there are always two sides to the story and the truth is found somewhere in the middle.

Forums that have no moderation are often not worth belonging to. SPAM is now carried out by SPAM BOTS instead of by humans. These Bots are smart enough to join forums all on their own and then enter various sub-forums for the express purpose of posting replies in existing threads or creating new threads with information about some product or service. And then there are the Porn sites that do the same thing and leave live links behind that lead to their sites. The worst ones of all, are the malicious bastards who leave links that have worms or Trojans in them that either corrupt your hard drive or they allow "others" to hack into your computer. At that point, anything you have stored on your hard drive can be accessed and that includes personal information about yourself along with your list of e-mail contacts.

So, while you might lament the fact that sites are moderated, it's necessary.

I agree with you that there are some mods who are corrupted by the bit of power that comes with being a mod. There is nothing new in that. It's up to the owner of the forum to keep an eye on his or her moderators to make sure they don't get too heavy-handed. Obviously, it is important for every site to POST clearly written RULES in plain sight on the forum. No one should be banned as a result of a single rule infraction. Forums do not want to lose members for any reason, especially members that contribute regularly. One of the problems today is that forums all start out small but can often grow very large in just a few years. In the beginning, the annual costs to run a small forum are also small but as the daily activity increases, so does the demand for bandwidth and then the annual costs rise to the point where the site owner can't afford to fund it. MTF is a prime example. When Simple John started that forum six or seven years back, he did so out of his love for garden tractors and he funded it out of his own pocket. In a few short years, his costs rose to the point where he was forced to ask for SUPPORTERS to contribute a few bucks to help out with the annual costs but only a small percentage of members will send in money. That left him with no choice but to allow advertising. Less than a year ago, the MTF site became too overwhelming for SJ to run and he sold out to a corporation that does nothing but run forums.

The problem with such corporations is that they rarely have the same motives as the original site owner. For them, it's all about maximizing the profit from each site. In order to do that, they have to attract new members while doing their best to hang onto existing ones. Members that create problems that cause other members to quit the site are considered to be expendable. For the corporations, it's an easy decision. Ban ONE person in order to hang onto five members and attract three more lurkers that are thinking about joining. I don't know what went on with you at these other sites and I don't really care. Moderators are there to keep the forum running smoothly and if that means having to ban someone, then so be it.

As a site owner myself, I have found it necessary to ban certain members. If we are all being honest here, then those who have been on forums for many years will understand what I am saying. There are always the odd member who is just plain stupid. That person has a tiny bit of information in his grey matter but he believes that wrote the book on the topic. He posts the most ridiculous replies constantly and even though five or six other members chime in and tell him that he's totally wrong...........he's undeterred because he has a mind that cannot be reasoned with. He's right...and everyone else is wrong.

Now...as a site owner, I would PM such a person and try to make them understand the error of their ways. If that person failed to make changes, then I'd park his *** outside the forum for a week in the hopes that a light would get switched on. If that failed to do the trick, then I'd have no other option but a permanent ban in order to end the constant disruptions created by that person. It's not about malignant narcissism but more about making the forum run smoothly so that everyone has a pleasant experience while reading posts and threads. There's a big difference between intelligent, well-thought out argument that can be backed up with fact.............and absurd points of view that have no basis in fact and quickly degenerate into name-calling and other personal attacks. Very few people want to come to forums to read stuff like that. Most people are on this site to learn more about their tractor and how to keep it running at the lowest cost. If someone joins a site for the express purpose of creating volatile threads (Flaming), then the site is better off without that member.

I am not judging you.... I have not read enough of your posts to allow me to make any such judgment. I am talking strictly in generalities here just as you are. I'm trying to give you a window into what site owners are faced with almost every day.
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Posted June 30, 2011 - 09:11 AM

Just my 2 cents

Have been a member here for less than a week. This place is fun, friendly, informative and laid back. I've been telling other gt friends and acquaintances about this site. Has just the right amount of moderation. Also site features like a Thanks button etc. makes it easy to show appreciation to another poster.... and then you have a tally of the number of times you have been thanked. This is the best site gt or non gt that I have been on in the 6 years I have been online.

My hat off to George and the moderators here

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Posted June 30, 2011 - 09:54 AM

I'm in total agreement with Hydriv on this. What we have to remember here is that forums don't have to adhere to 1st Amendment rights. Forums and websites, for the most part, are privately owned and it's up to the owners or the owner's representatives (moderators) on what content is allowed or not allowed. In essence, we have to abide by the rules.

As a moderator myself on several sites, including RS, WFM, JD SST Yahoo group, I can attest that being fair and consistence is sometimes hard as there will always be members who want to see how far they can go on certain things. There are members who want to push the limits. It's almost childish, but there are some who do it.




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