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#1 My3kidsfather OFFLINE  

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Posted July 17, 2017 - 12:56 PM

So we are in the process of buying a new to us home. The most likely home has a hill in the back yard and I have no exerience with garden tractors and hills. A tougher older tractor is likely a better choice, do you agree? The better garden tractors for sale at the moment in our area are:

 

1. Wheel Horse 520-H

 

2. Massey Fergusson 10

 

3. Craftsman II GT 19.5 hp (95?)

 

4. JD 112L

 

5. Allis Chalmers 716

 

The grade in the back yard appears to be about 15 degrees to my eyesight, Any comments?



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Posted July 17, 2017 - 01:10 PM

That 15 degree slope isnt much to be concerned with, unless you have to follow a push mower. Any of the GTs you listed will handle it fine. 


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Posted July 17, 2017 - 01:19 PM

The WH 520 is head and shoulders above the others, condition and all being equal.


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Posted July 17, 2017 - 02:12 PM

Is the WH520H a "large frame" tractor?  Is that what makes it better? Glad to hear a modest grade is ok with them all.



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Posted July 17, 2017 - 02:37 PM

What size is the yard? Everything you listed are overkill if you are talking about anything under an acre


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Posted July 17, 2017 - 02:47 PM

Is the WH520H a "large frame" tractor?  Is that what makes it better? Glad to hear a modest grade is ok with them all.

It's the biggest tractor Wheel Horse ever made. It typically ran a 60" mower deck


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Posted July 17, 2017 - 02:57 PM

The 112L is not really a GT. The 520 is the biggest but all would be fine. What are you planning to do with it? Best thing to do is look for a common brand in your area so you don't have a tough time with parts and attachments.

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Posted July 17, 2017 - 03:17 PM

Do not forget the 55 series Masseys.  They quite capable tractors as well


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Posted July 17, 2017 - 03:53 PM

I do not need a tractor, just want one to teach the grandkids to drive, and something to fiddle with. It will help cut the grass on the hill, and that is about it. I am really leaning toward the Massey 10 or the Craftsman GT; the JD 112L would be fine too.



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Posted July 17, 2017 - 04:19 PM

My experience with Wheel Horses is pretty limited but my 96 312-8 was a bit tippy on hills until I put 23-1050 12 6 ply turf tires on the rear. The original tires were 2 ply with really thin side walls.

 

I put the 6 ply on and it doesn't try to tip any more while mowing side to side on a hill. I might add a set of weights just for piece of mind but I'm loving the tractor. I put 60 hours on it so far with the new tires.

 

I won't even look at a JD L series mower for my personal mowing machine. I've worked on a few and I can tell yoi they do not hold up very well. Between the weak deck belt idler brackets twisting,front axles literally falling off and the cheap hydro transaxles burning up as fast as they do I won't own one unless it's Free or very very cheap.  


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Posted July 17, 2017 - 04:45 PM

It's the biggest tractor Wheel Horse ever made. It typically ran a 60" mower deck

I don't want to cause trouble, but Wheel Horse made a D-200 which had a 20 hp twin Kohler and was larger in size than the 520.

They also made a D-250 with a Renault engine that was a really BIG machine.

 

BTW, I have a 520H and a D-200!


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Posted July 17, 2017 - 04:52 PM

If you just want something for the grandkids to play with, look at a small lawn tractor with the deck removed. Do not let kids play with one with a mower deck until they are atleast 12. I picked up a small MTD LT without a deck for free. A new battery and a few hours work and it became my wifes tractor for pulling her cart around. Look for something like that. IF you try to drive across the slope, many of the tractors will be tippy. How much were you looking to spend? Do you have the ability to do repairs yourself? I got into this hobby big time when my son was 12 and spending way too much time on the computor. HE outgrew the GTs but I got hooked. Good Luck, Rick

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Posted July 17, 2017 - 05:13 PM

My son was driving his MF8 at age 8, moved to his reassembled MF10 at 14.

The Massey tractors are great rides, but there are a few unique things about them.
First, the Teccy engine. Not impossible to get Parts for, but getting harder. The spark system can be expensive to replace.
The belts are proprietary in their angle. Some have bought aftermarkets, but I don't know of any who've taken the time to give feedback.
The varispeed is a cool gadget. If it ever need adjusted, read the (free here) service manual. Then read it again. Then don't adjust it, just stare at it... Then read it again. NOW you can start the adjustment with the book next to you to reread. Rest of the machine parts are pretty rugged and are available on eBay or from the suppliers here and on other forums.

Not that bad, but E V E R Y O N E assumes they know what they are doing and ends up making it harder for themselves.

I love the styling on the Massey tractors. They rock IMHO.

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Posted July 17, 2017 - 05:38 PM

I don't want to cause trouble, but Wheel Horse made a D-200 which had a 20 hp twin Kohler and was larger in size than the 520.

They also made a D-250 with a Renault engine that was a really BIG machine.

 

BTW, I have a 520H and a D-200!

No trouble. I was trying to stress that the 520 was in a different category than the rest and I misspoke. Thanks for correcting me.


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Posted July 17, 2017 - 08:23 PM

Grand-kids don't need a WH 520. something the 5 to 10 hp range would make them more than happy.

Grandpa needs something bigger and the WH 520 wold be the choice for me. 


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