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#1 1oldbuzz OFFLINE  

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Posted July 13, 2017 - 02:01 AM

Just need to vent a little

First off some people should not be allowed to have a tool of any

kind in their hand.Much less even be allowed to purchase tools.

 

This stems from the last couple machines I have found time

to get to

 

A Kohler twin with a improperly installed oil pan gasket

and only 2 of the 4 bolt holding the pan on

the fix was lets silicone the seem where the oil is coming out

 

valve cover gaskets pushed to the inside causing oil leaks

 

and don't even know how this engine even ran

points plunger/push rod so worn down the points hardly even opened

concave on the lobe side and worn so far into the points side

couldn't even get any adjustment at all

 

Hope at least some can reflect on this and have a chuckle for the day


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Posted July 13, 2017 - 06:14 AM

HEHEhehe! Every machine I run into has some incompitant Boobs Signature on it somewhere! then I put mine! NOT!


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Posted July 13, 2017 - 06:17 AM

unfortunately we have all taught ourselves something along the way....


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Posted July 13, 2017 - 06:20 AM

Just need to vent a little

First off some people should not be allowed to have a tool of any

kind in their hand.Much less even be allowed to purchase tools.

 

I am sure there is a Labor Union somewhere that would agree with you.


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Posted July 13, 2017 - 06:40 AM

In this industry you see some of the craziest hack jobs out of anything.

I have seen kitchen sponges used for air filters, zip ties to hold on a carburetor bowl :D

 

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Posted July 13, 2017 - 06:41 AM

Cutting corners or doing shoddy work just because is something we all see once in a while. Repairs like you mention are above and beyond, but happen. Usually, I've found these to be people who are only trying to reassemble something to get it gone... like they told a friend they would do "x" and now they have to finish in a hurry.
Some of these repairs are quaint, in a way. Nails for cotter pins, coffee can tool boxes, repurposing in the extreme, etc... things a farm family might do because of frugality or expediency.
OR
Some, like you mention, because of either ineptitude or a lack of caring.
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Posted July 13, 2017 - 06:44 AM

I own a powersports repair shop.  I see it all.  Some of it done by "professionals" at other shops.  These are things that go down the freeway at 70mph +.

 

Couple interesting ones yesterday (not mechanic screw ups).

 

Had a guy bring in an ATV that I repaired in February.  Said it ran great until a couple weeks ago, now spits and backfires and won't keep running.  A little fuel in the tank fixed him right up.

 

Had another guy send in his motorcycle on a tow truck.  He was riding down the road and it started acting up and quit on him.  A little fuel in the tank fixed him right up.


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Posted July 13, 2017 - 07:07 AM

A lot of that stems from lack of know how.  We all had to learn some time, way and place.  Some went to a school of some type.  Others went to the school of hard knocks.  They do the best they can with what they have, in their hand and between their ears.  Not sticking up for them at all, just stating a fact of life.  Found a saber saw blade used for a choke lever yesterday.  Crude but it worked.  Then the guy that wanted to make a hit at the office so bake a batch of cookies.  couldn't find any baking power so used baking soda instead.  Nothing wrong with making a mistake - till we make the same one twice.


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Posted July 13, 2017 - 07:33 AM

don't forget arrogance and self-importance - that ever popular "what, you don't think I know what I'm doing?" "I"m doing this (so of course it's getting done right)" 

I've spent a lot of my career trying to point out "you might want to try this" so as not to offend some people, things still get screwed up and maybe at some point somebody might say, ahhhh, guess you were right.....


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Posted July 13, 2017 - 08:27 AM

  Most learn by the mistakes they make along the way. In every aspects of life we all make some mistakes , some times the consequences are really severe. Little things like things that are not put together correctly are trivial. it's the big mistakes where peoples lives are changed forever thats the ones we need to be concerned about. So vent away and hope that you never have to deal with a life changing mistake.


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Posted July 13, 2017 - 08:35 AM

We have to remember, the first mechanic, pilot, seamstress, doctor, barber, salesman, were all self taught. In the case of lawyers, the devil spawned them...
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Posted July 13, 2017 - 09:30 AM

Just need to vent a little

First off some people should not be allowed to have a tool of any

kind in their hand.Much less even be allowed to purchase tools.

 

This stems from the last couple machines I have found time

to get to

 

A Kohler twin with a improperly installed oil pan gasket

and only 2 of the 4 bolt holding the pan on

the fix was lets silicone the seem where the oil is coming out

 

valve cover gaskets pushed to the inside causing oil leaks

 

and don't even know how this engine even ran

points plunger/push rod so worn down the points hardly even opened

concave on the lobe side and worn so far into the points side

couldn't even get any adjustment at all

 

Hope at least some can reflect on this and have a chuckle for the day

    Had a neighbor ask me if I could look at Kohler. it was using to much oil. John Deere he doesn't want to spend any money on. OK so he brings it over on a trailer. I fire it up and it is puking oil out the case seam. Fine I spray the case seam with carb cleaner rub some silicone in it tell him to wait 24 hrs before starting and send him down the road no charge. Still running 2 years later, he got more than he paid for. Don


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Posted July 13, 2017 - 09:44 AM

A lot of that stems from lack of know how.  We all had to learn some time, way and place.  Some went to a school of some type.  Others went to the school of hard knocks.  They do the best they can with what they have, in their hand and between their ears.  Not sticking up for them at all, just stating a fact of life.  Found a saber saw blade used for a choke lever yesterday.  Crude but it worked.  Then the guy that wanted to make a hit at the office so bake a batch of cookies.  couldn't find any baking power so used baking soda instead.  Nothing wrong with making a mistake - till we make the same one twice.

Some people learn from mistakes, some just get a bigger hammer.

One of the challenges I have is dealing with young mechanics.  I have to remember I've got 50+ years of mistakes and they've only even been alive half that time.

I've got a 5lb short handled sledge hammer I keep in the truck instead of bringing it into the shop.  That way I've got a cooling off period while I go to fetch it.  It keeps me from using it prematurely.


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Posted July 13, 2017 - 09:44 AM

Don, So you were the one that worked on the engine that oldbuzz now has??  :thumbs:  :wave:


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Posted July 13, 2017 - 09:59 AM

Don, So you were the one that worked on the engine that oldbuzz now has??  :thumbs:  :wave:

Don't think so, Haven't been near Wisconsin since 79. Don


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