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#1 KennyP ONLINE  

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Posted July 04, 2017 - 12:21 PM

The neighbor asked if I could get his generator running. His parents gave it to him because they couldn't get it started from new. Checked the hour meter and it shows 0.2 hours, pretty well confirming that. It had OLD gas (I could tell by the smell), so I wanted to check the shut-off at the tank. Went to turn the handle and the sucker came out. Scrambled for a pan to catch the stinky mess. This is what I have found so far.

Here's the genset.

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This is the shutoff with half the grommet.

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Here's what was in the bottom of the pan.

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And here is the fuel filter and what came out of it.

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This is a Parmac S 5000 genset. Brand new yet. Checked the engine oil and it is a bit overfull. I haven't checked the engine yet, but it's supposed to be a Honda according to the manual. No telling what that fuel bowl may look like!


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Posted July 04, 2017 - 01:02 PM

From what you have found so far, wait till you get to the carb!  Bucket of carb cleaner, toss everything in it and forget it for a couple days.  Good luck with your project.


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Posted July 04, 2017 - 01:11 PM

From what you have found so far, wait till you get to the carb!  Bucket of carb cleaner, toss everything in it and forget it for a couple days.  Good luck with your project.

Got a pleasant surprise when I took the bowl off! It's clean!!!! Bet the reason they couldn't get it to start ius because they never turned the fuel on at the carb! And this is a Subaru engine. I'll probably pull the carb so I can back flush whatever may be in that shutoff valve!

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Posted July 04, 2017 - 01:31 PM

That bushing for the gas tank is available from NAPA. It is part number7-07461. I've had several of them break off. Good Luck, Rick


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Posted July 04, 2017 - 01:55 PM

That bushing for the gas tank is available from NAPA. It is part number7-07461. I've had several of them break off. Good Luck, Rick

But the shutoff is full of rust. This is a brand new unit so to speak, so I want it to function that way. Found the parts for ~$10. Just have to wait til tomorrow to order them. Shipping would be about the same as driving into Tulsa to NAPA.


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Posted July 04, 2017 - 02:37 PM

Never been around a Subaru engine.  My Bolens QT had the same situation with the fuel valve and outlet.  Dealer 32 miles away had the parts in stock so he sent them to me.  Had them the next day - $5 shipping.  You should have that running this weekend if they get the parts out right away.


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Posted July 04, 2017 - 04:27 PM

My NAPA was about 8 miles away. Three weeks ago I went by there and they were closed. I hope that they just moved. They were a great bunch. Good Luck, Rick
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Posted July 04, 2017 - 06:00 PM

Sounds & looks like they ran the carb bowl empty. It quit then they parked it without opening the shutoff. They might have even added oil to help it start. Lol
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Posted July 05, 2017 - 05:18 AM

Sounds & looks like they ran the carb bowl empty. It quit then they parked it without opening the shutoff. They might have even added oil to help it start. Lol

I'm thinking that 0.2 hours was testing at the factory. I don't think they ever turned the valve on at the carb. Took me a moment to see it!


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Posted July 05, 2017 - 06:34 AM

Many generators have a break in procedure when new.
May want to read the manual on that, just so all goes smooth.

Also, where did the rust come from? That looks like a plastic tank?
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Posted July 05, 2017 - 06:45 AM

Many generators have a break in procedure when new.
May want to read the manual on that, just so all goes smooth.

Also, where did the rust come from? That looks like a plastic tank?

The shutoff is metal, it was nearly closed off with rust. I'm getting a new one along with the grommet. I gotta find something on this engine as it is a Subaru. Manual is for a Honda engine. I will call a dealer in Nebraska this morning to order the parts and see what they say.


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Posted July 05, 2017 - 10:44 AM

The Robin/Subaru engines are good engines. We used to put them in our generators back when the Baldor banner was in front of our factory.

They never had trouble pulling full power and were much quieter than the Honda's, or Kohler's that we used on other generators.

 

I would guess replace the damaged parts you found, a good fuel sys. cleaning, oil change and it should run like a top.


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Posted July 05, 2017 - 10:48 AM

I ordered the shut off valve and grommet. Couldn't find any local with out driving around Tulsa.


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Posted July 05, 2017 - 04:42 PM

I went up to Ace Hardware looking for the grommet. They didn't have anything, but the owner offered me a part time job fixing them! I just laughed and said I don't have the time. Plus I don't have the ability to move my tools back and forth!


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Posted July 18, 2017 - 05:17 AM

I finally got the new grommet and shut-off valve yesterday. Hooked the fuel lines back up. Found I hadn't hooked the choke lever up correctly. Fixed that and it fired right up. Ran about 15 minutes and vapor locked. Thought at first it was something plugging the line. Took the line loose at the filter and fuel ran out. Finally fuel filled the filter again and it started. Ran fine for about 15 minutes and died again. Fuel Filter is dry. After 4-5 times of doing this, I'm trying to decide if it's because the filter is right above the fan from the generator or where the fuel line goes behind the tins next to the head. Need to get a pic for you guys to look at.


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