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#1 Doug E. ONLINE  

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Posted June 12, 2017 - 12:41 PM

I have a 1250 and a later HT large frame that I would eventually like to put 3 pts on.  What is the reasoning or advantage to putting the pivot point for the lift arms in the blocks in the end of the frame as on the HT tractors? 

 

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Posted June 12, 2017 - 12:55 PM

Those blocks hold the rockshaft.
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Posted June 12, 2017 - 01:46 PM

I don't have a parts breakdown for the 3 pt. for the HT tractors, but if that is called the rockshaft, the 3 pt for the older large frames such as the 1250 don't have it. 

 

What I am interested in is what are the advantages of the design for the newer tractors that are so much better that I would not use something similar to the earlier design on an HT tractor?  I need to make a 3 pt. for my 1250, why not just make 2 and put the second one on my HT?  I want to add the 3 pt. so I can use the implements I pull on my H14 with the sleeve hitch. 

 

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Posted June 12, 2017 - 04:27 PM

Thought I'd post the parts diagram for those interested in seeing the differences for themselves. Big differences, I'm sure someone will chime in but my opinion here... the older style was better because it connects to both sides of the rock shaft versus just one side, & you can get down pressure. The newer type can't be used in the 1886-03 - 1250 because the shorter framerails however, the older hitch style can be used on the 1886-04 - the ht series but the lift rods will hit the framerail before you achieve "full lift" height. Now, if you want to notch your frame, you're all set but if not you have to use the newer style. As far as other benefits one over the other.... I suppose it's one's own opinion.

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Posted June 12, 2017 - 04:42 PM

Thought I'd post the parts diagram for those interested in seeing the differences for themselves. Big differences, I'm sure someone will chime in but my opinion here... the older style was better because it connects to both sides of the rock shaft versus just one side, & you can get down pressure. The newer type can't be used in the 1886-03 - 1250 because the shorter framerails however, the older hitch style can be used on the 1886-04 - the ht series but the lift rods will hit the framerail before you achieve "full lift" height. Now, if you want to notch your frame, you're all set but if not you have to use the newer style. As far as other benefits one over the other.... I suppose it's one's own opinion.

 

 

Older 3 point was used on the 1250-197-01 to the 1886-04.  The newer 3 point was on the 1886s-05 to the HT23-2389s-04.


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Posted June 12, 2017 - 04:46 PM

Older 3 point was used on the 1250-197-01 to the 1886-04. The newer 3 point was on the 1886s-05 to the HT23-2389s-04.

Was wondering when the longer frames came into play, Thanks wilbur
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Posted June 13, 2017 - 11:41 AM

Thanks for your responses!

 

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